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# where in the rules does it say it's encouraged?
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 13:32, archived)
# also... I'd like to know what percentage of these hooligans were actually AT the game...
I'd wager than the WEREN'Ts outweigh the WEREs
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 13:35, archived)
# football has a referee, boxing has a referee, it's obviously a fight innit?
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 13:35, archived)
# blaming "football" for the idiotic actions of the few knuckle-dragging fans
is like blaming freedom of speech for peaceful protests turning into violent clashes
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 13:42, archived)
# I love football and I love senseless violence, but which is better...?
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 13:45, archived)
# haha!
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 13:49, archived)
# it's interesting that football clubs in this country generally pick up the bill for the extra policing required on match days.
If hoolganism wasnt attributable to football, do you think they would be prepared to do this?
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 14:31, archived)
# it's not attributed to football...
it's, again, attributed to the stupid actions of the minority.
This isn't that complicated.
Again, blaming football for the violence of those who participate or spectate is like blaming
violent video games for the failings of those who play them for not realising that it's not real - or blaming rap music for an increase in gang violence.
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 14:39, archived)
# A stupid, violent minority that does not exist in the audience of most other sports?
What is it about football that attracts this sort of supporter?
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 14:48, archived)
# it's popularity, especially with those from disadvantaged backgrounds
probably the fact that two people can play at least some form of football; whether it be pass-and-shoot, heads-and-volleys, two-touch, etc... whereas most other sports rely on a full team structure...

another aspect, at least at my school, is that football is used as a way to placate unruly students in a case of "just give them football and shut them up", without tackling (lol) and underlying issue.
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 15:21, archived)
# ahh, so it's poor people, not football, that are to blame
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 16:20, archived)
# ahhh.... right...
so you're just deliberately being obtuse...
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 16:33, archived)
# not at all, just trying to get to the bottom of your reasoning.
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 16:40, archived)
# it's simple... humans are the masters of their own destiny...
I watch football, porn, violent movies etc and play violent video games and can watch football without wanting to attack others.

so one can't blame a sport for the actions choose to take.
(, Wed 13 Jun 2012, 17:20, archived)