You know who I hate
Cyclists - they piss me off whether I'm walking or driving.
( Rev. A-MOL is lurking around these parts again, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:15, archived)

how come?

( corington, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:17, archived)

I live in York, with tiny roads, which may have something to do with it...
They can't decide whether they are pedestrians or road users, leading them to go twatting through pedestrian crossings full pelt or just going through junctions despite the colour of the lights. They also get pissed off with people standing on the kerb when the street is packed and they have nowhere else to go. They hold up buses with their slow pedalling, causing a backlog of traffic in the streets.
( Rev. A-MOL is lurking around these parts again, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:20, archived)

Fair enough
But in London, the more cyclists the better really.
( corington, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:22, archived)

Speaking as someone who cycles in London (sometimes)
I would like to point out that almost all of us bastards are dangerous twunts. Practically none have any concept of the highway code; all skip lights (I know I do). The major problem is that there's a sizable minority who seem to think that just because they're on a bike and "saving the environment" they have a right to do what they like. I'm not saving the environment, I'm saving money (and the stress of the tube), and it fucks me off when some driver or pedestrian ends up acting like a cunt towards me because other cyclists have acted as cunts to them in the past.

Oh yeah, and anyone who cycles in London without a helmet deserves to be hit by a fucking bus. Maniacs.

/mild rant
( TV's Nosemonkey, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:31, archived)

I can't afford a helmet
because I'm too poor. I accept I am putting myself at risk, possibly being extremely stupid, but it doesn't give other people the right to hit me with a bus.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:38, archived)

My problem with non-helmeted cyclists
(other than their apparent suicidal tendencies) is that they always tend to go very slowly, which they think will stop them getting into trouble, or being hurt as much when they come off. This means I constantly have to overtake them, thus putting myself at greater risk. I don't cycle fast (my bike's too shit to get much above 20), but helmetless bastards might as well walk.
( TV's Nosemonkey, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:44, archived)

I don't think I cycle any slower without a helmet
unless it's a subconscious risk thang.

Getting hit by a bus is likely to hurt whatever speed you're going at.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:47, archived)

if you can't beat em join em
you'll never look back.
you'll be going too fast.
( ferret charmer, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:24, archived)

Dunno about York, but the problem in Leicester
seems to be that cyclists are almost expected to use the pavements, which (as a cyclist) I hate. Cycle lanes are often painted on the pavements, which is inconvenient for everyone.
I cycle on the roads and use them properly and have few problems - actually pedestrians annoy me more often than drivers.
Also I spend a lot of my time stuck behind buses, and cars.
Cycling is healthy, fast, environmentally sound, and, like everything else, annoying if done by twunts. Please don't tar us all with the same brush.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:24, archived)

I agree
www.b3ta.com/board/3580379
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:36, archived)

as a cyclist
and haveing spent some of my formative years in london at college, i can say that drivers are cunts (of which i am now one).
( Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:17, archived)

Agreed
self-righteous gets
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:17, archived)

just run them down
I'm a cyclist, I ride a bike to work in london everyday. Woe betide any fucking driver who NEARLY runs me over though :)
( Nath, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:18, archived)

Who's Woby???
And why did he tie them up.


Sorry! Old Billy Connelly joke there
( Dugs - The artist formerly known as Dugsybaws, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:24, archived)

( wibblywobbly - helping ugly people get laid since 1982, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:18, archived)

Yay!
and horses; they're quite happy to do three miles a week, four abreast, wait for a bend and then wave you into an oncoming land rover leaving piles of shite all over the place and they don't even pay any road tax . . .
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:22, archived)

hahaha

( Nath, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:22, archived)

i think they should be forced to pick it up in a carrierbag like dog owners.
or they should face a fine.

it's a health hazard to young children.
( Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:24, archived)

I spent
many a summer day happily eating horse shit when I were a lad, never done me any harm.
( wibblywobbly - helping ugly people get laid since 1982, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:25, archived)

i refer the honerable gentleman to his username.

( Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:29, archived)

Haha,
well-spotted.

*makes mental note to stop eating horse poo*
( wibblywobbly - helping ugly people get laid since 1982, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:46, archived)

Agreed

let them put it on THEIR rhubarb

prefer custard, meself ARF!
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:25, archived)

as an avid cyclist
i can but offer you my sympathies

now get out of my way looser!
( ferret charmer, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:19, archived)

tighter!

( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:22, archived)

I was a cyclist...
...for a few months when I lived in Guildford. After getting hit by Volvo drivers twice while I was happily trundling down a cycle-lane, I can honestly say that drivers are shitehawks with no consideration. The second time, despite me doing a Superman-style flight over the handlebars of my bike, the cunt didn't even stop to see if I was still alive...
(Sartori wishes everyone was nicer, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:19, archived)

Once a pick-up truck in front of me braked suddenly
and I ended up in the back. Twunt.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:26, archived)

your fault
not his

sorry
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:31, archived)

Why?
He braked very suddenly, with no indication he was going to do so. I was a fair distance behind him where he could easily have seen me if he'd used his mirrors for two seconds.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:32, archived)

Maybe if a small child had run out in front of him
and he'd checked his mirrors, indicated, then braked he'd have gone to prison.

Just because you can't leave a sensible distance.

/fluffy really
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:34, archived)

If a small child had run out in front of him
that would have been fair enough. There was no such child.
I maintain I was a sensible distance behind him. I was there, you weren't.

/edit: fluffy
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:36, archived)

If it were a sensible distance
you would have stopped before you crashed into him

simple logic
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:37, archived)

Indeed
It's always the driver's responsibility to ensure you can stop. Even if the car in front does an emergency stop for no reason.

The only way a rear collision can be 'not your fault' really is if you're shunted into another car (which has happened to me).
( Canker, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:40, archived)

Insurance companies and police state
that if you go into the back of someone, then you are at fault for not leaving enough stopping space.
( Dugs - The artist formerly known as Dugsybaws, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:40, archived)

Excuse me, but
how the fuck do you know? Were you there?

Had I been any further behind him, I would have been under the wheels of the next car back.

I do not have to justify myself to you. This correspondence is closed.

/edit: apologies for unfluffiness.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:40, archived)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Handbags.
maybe you should get your breaks checked if you were that far behind and still crashed into him, i'd say that your brakes might be faulty.

or you were eyeing up the big tittied lady on the pavement and wasn't paying attention to the road.
( Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:51, archived)

... I always eye up the big titted lady on the pavement....
If I crash... I'll be dying happy... :D
( Beastie is doing science with his arse, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:53, archived)

I always
tit up the big-ladied eye

*crashes
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:55, archived)

It was a wet day.
All right, if I'd been paying more attention I probably could have avoided hitting him.

But I trust no one is saying it was okay for him to suddenly brake without any warning. As I recall, in fact, he wanted to turn left and hadn't bothered indicating, which is back where we started.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:55, archived)

*says
'it was okay for him to suddenly brake without any warning. As I recall, in fact, he wanted to turn left and hadn't bothered indicating, which is back where we started.'
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:56, archived)

*shakes fist*
Why I oughta...
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:57, archived)

*cycles off, cackling madly

*crashes into big lorry

Doh!
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Stuff happens - glee arms - more stuff - glee arms again . . . unexpected horse! - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:58, archived)

Don't worry,
it was his fault.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 12:12, archived)

I agree!!
Cyclists should pay road tax as well. Why should they get to use the road for free while bikers and car drivers dont.

We pay enough in our fuel taxes
( Dugs - The artist formerly known as Dugsybaws, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:25, archived)

Because the amount of wear
that a bicycle does to road is infinitesimal compared to that done by a car.
And because a significant amount of road tax money (most?) is spent on buiding and maintaining motorways, which cyclists aren't allowed on.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:35, archived)

Cyclists should, however, be forced to have numberplates
At the moment they (we) can flagrantly break the law and easily get away with it. Cars etc can be tracked by their registrations, which can easily be picked up on traffic cameras. It should be the same for bikes.
( TV's Nosemonkey, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:41, archived)

That's not a bad idea.
I doubt anything'd be enforced though. Round here they won't stop you for cycling on the pavement or without lights.
( Newington HM Time Corps: Quo vadimus non requirimus vias, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:49, archived)

... but at least you'd be able to report the tossers who cause accidents...

( Beastie is doing science with his arse, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:54, archived)

I know it's heavier than a pushbike...
but my 500cc motorcycle has a taxation class of "bicycle"...

Doesn't count as one for parking etc though...
( Beastie is doing science with his arse, Wed 11 Aug 2004, 11:48, archived)