kiss kiss - not in a nasty, just in a world without lektric.

( my mum, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:11, archived)

and this is worthy of the comp
WHY?
( Sandwich ....Needles to say.....I.....took drugs, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:13, archived)

maybe JJ now needs to go out
and post flyers for ideas


/what I see it as :)
( prodigy69 ok Lady..love you..bye bye!!, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:14, archived)

But theres a car
unless its steam powered
( Sandwich ....Needles to say.....I.....took drugs, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:16, archived)

You can build a non-electric combustion powered car. It just needs to be diesel.

(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:17, archived)

yeh
they have them flint spark plugs innit?
( chimp-donk ABCDISCO, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:18, archived)

A spark is electricity
b
( Sandwich ....Needles to say.....I.....took drugs, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:19, archived)

No, it's not, no more than fire is electricty.

(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:21, archived)

Idiot.
A spark is a chain of electrons following a path to ground.
( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:25, archived)

No, the sparks you get from rubbing to bit's of flint together aren't.

(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:27, archived)

No, but technically
that's just an ember... a burning hot peice of flint that has broken off the main peice.

EDIT: I don't even know how you'd propose to use flint anyway - you'd need to strike each one (successfully ) 250 times/second (assuming there's only 4 cylinders) just to keep the engine at a fast idle.
( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:28, archived)

I quote
"they have them flint spark plugs innit?",

does this not imply that the sparks we were talking about come from flint.
(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:30, archived)

.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark

Edit. and diesel engines don't use spark plugs. Once they've started they just keep running using the power of science.
(Papagato RackSpanner, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:31, archived)

^this

(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:33, archived)

I think everyone has had too much fizzy ribena
the comp ses:
"Invent new things to take the place of our electric powered friends and post them on the board."
it doesnt ses:
"have half arsed ill informed arguments about the nature of electricity and combustion engins and that"

if only science had achieved a unified theory of complex systems
( chimp-donk ABCDISCO, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:34, archived)

Hurrah!
Much better, ta.
( Fronds, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:37, archived)

Mr arguments are not ill informed.

(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:38, archived)

Yay!
I nominate chimp-donk for a Nobel Prize!
(Papagato RackSpanner, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:39, archived)

Skill
could you possibly see your way to nominating me for the nobel prize for getting drunk and crashing into things - cheers
( chimp-donk ABCDISCO, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:42, archived)

seconded
thirded, seventhed, and three-te-tee-three'd
( my mum, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:44, archived)

Its not flint
its enamel. If you throw enamel against glass it shatters it
( Sandwich ....Needles to say.....I.....took drugs, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:31, archived)

Yes, but spark is not the correct word.

( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:32, archived)

Yawn
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Spark
(Papagato RackSpanner, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:33, archived)

Shush!

( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:41, archived)

I belive the "power strike" incinuates that powerplants shut down.
Not the disappearance of electrical forces.
(GreyscaleFox - formally known as Fentruk, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:27, archived)

oh
.

.

... yep

. - - to difficult this finkin bit
( chimp-donk ABCDISCO, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:22, archived)

you are electric (though possibly running on low voltage)
what then?
( my mum, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:22, archived)

Hmm
Yes, our brains operate using electrical signals and impulses. Hence we'd all die
( Sandwich ....Needles to say.....I.....took drugs, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:25, archived)

Depends...
are we talking a world where we havin't discovered electrisity yet, or are we talking about a world with no magnetism (and thus no means of generating electrisity)?
( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:27, archived)

Magnetism and electricity are inseperable.
They are the same thing.
(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:31, archived)

Yes, that was my point.
Read my post again.

EDIT: Well, no, they're not the same, but yes, you need magnetism for electrisity to be generatable.
( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:34, archived)

Sorry, I thought you were suggesting that electricty could exist so we would be alive,
but without magnetism we would have no way of harnessing it.
(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:37, archived)

... apart from batteries
... and fuel cells

... and rubbing balloons on stuff.

We're probably not supposed to think about that too deeply.
( Trinosaur, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:34, archived)

I think you need magnetism
for electrisity to actually flow at all... I'm not sure though.
( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:37, archived)

and how do you get the energy into these batteries and fuel cells to begin with?

(UltimateStoat thanks you for helping him help you help us all, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:43, archived)

You don't need spark plugs in desiel cars. The compression alone is enough to ignite the disiel.

(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:20, archived)

I am not convinced
that a combustion engine doesn't use at least some form of electricity
( Sandwich ....Needles to say.....I.....took drugs, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:21, archived)

You've got the whole interweb at your disposal,
look up how diesel vehicles work. No electrics required, as long as you've got some method of starting it - hand crank, clockwork or compressed air for instance.

Kids today...
( Fronds, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:23, archived)

The only electrical thing used in the
combustion process in a diesel engine are the glow plugs. But you can still start the engine without them... it just takes a while.

Or you can add a chemical to the fuel to keep it thin at low temperatures.
( tehspanna, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:39, archived)

( prodigy69 ok Lady..love you..bye bye!!, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:17, archived)

Steam powered you say?


For roasting peas.

EDIT: Plus I did see some program on BBC where they restored a steam powered truck. It was dead crap compared to pertol/diesel.
(Jimvin likes pie!, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:22, archived)

Oh dear. That is a shit pun
W/Y/H though!
(GreyscaleFox - formally known as Fentruk, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:29, archived)

"Pulls like a steam train" is an accurate phrase
I've seen some variably-succesful attempts to create steam-powered cars, but the real strength of steam is in sheer power - moving heavy stuff like trains. You don't _need_ gears with a steam engine - it's strong enough to go from zero up to top revs.

/edit: it's rubbish with response times though; stoking a boiler an hour before you want to drive to work is a bit shit.
( Fronds, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:30, archived)

I think he's suggesting that without electricy,
there would be no message board for jack to post his cartoon time request on every day, and so he would have to go around and hand out flyers instead.

Actually I think it's pretty funny.
(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:15, archived)

Without electricity...
HOw would he PRINT the flyers?
(Maynard Human After All., Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:18, archived)

Some kind of victorian printing press, powered by urchins.
That sound like JJ's kind of thing.
(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:18, archived)

do you charge for this service?
sends £5 to 'a mill'
( my mum, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:20, archived)

I'll do 5000 flyers in exchange for your first born.

(checkers, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:25, archived)

skill.
can you make the flyers read = "are you my mummy?" and put a picture of the lil treasure on em?
( my mum, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:30, archived)

Ever heard of a printing press?

( cr3 has a tendency to break things, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:19, archived)

believe it or not but they used to do this



thicko
( prodigy69 ok Lady..love you..bye bye!!, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:20, archived)

prove it

( manwithunderpantsonhead www.songanddance.co.uk, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:20, archived)

*in the form of mime*

*raises middle finger*
( prodigy69 ok Lady..love you..bye bye!!, Mon 1 Aug 2005, 17:23, archived)