Because a really rather sanctimonious prick on here (a rarity I know)
thinks I like to fake my drawings, hopefully this might clear things up.

www.b3ta.com/users/profile.php?id=47549

Thats his profile, so you can read the annoying cock's contributions to the sum of human intelligence. And heres some piccies taken with my phone just to prove a point. More astute b3tans might bother to read what I've written on the top left of the piccie.

Oh and thanks to the many b3tans who have pm'd me today and offered their kind support, because at least they can recognise that I have worked hard on this picture and that I am able to do more than just colour in other b3tans work. Eh Pasanonic?

farm2.static.flickr.com/1009/1018711052_47241899ea_o.jpg
( Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:25, archived)

oooh nice


Plug: b3ta.com/links/IMDb_s_reviews_for_My_Little_Pony
( Scrambled Edd www.eddsworld.co.uk, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:26, archived)

I didn't make this, but i do remember when pasanoic was called zoot!

( SkUG is glad to be out of hospital (stupid lungs), Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:59, archived)

FAKE!

( SexFace! BASH: http://www.b3ta.com/calendar/event/21224, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:26, archived)

Handbags!

(Dooley, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:26, archived)

Yeah sorry
At first I wasn't bothered but then I started to think "why should I let some talentless keyboard warrior denigrate my hard work?"

Its all a bit silly I know.
( Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:28, archived)

yeah but read the faq.
i'm not a fire stoker i'm a fire stoker's mate.

may not have any mates
( god save the queen hardly ever original, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:30, archived)

a fire Bram
(Sticky Label, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:39, archived)

Oh no

(@man dinner dinner dinner dinner, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:26, archived)

HOLY SHIT

( Sexy Picard 2000, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:28, archived)

i hate pasasonic
i'm so happy his wife left him :)

fucking zoot
( northernwifeb3ta is going to Dubai in December :D for "work", Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:28, archived)

i personally have never had a problem or ever envisage having a problem with a board member
that justifies a comment like that, the ignore button says more than petty jibes.

that is all.
( god save the queen hardly ever original, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:39, archived)

oooh grow fucking up!


and yes it's a great fantastic picture you did..
( prodigy69 uncle 2.0, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:29, archived)

If you have a problem with someone on the board and it riles you that much, take it up with them offline, don't waste a thread like this
Grow up and lets try and stop this place turning in to a fucking playground.
Your pictures are well done, some people like them, some people don't. Thats life.


life B3ta
( HappyToast sorted on, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:31, archived)

I don't think we're going to run out of threads.

(Sticky Label, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:35, archived)

or aggression and hatred toward fellow b3ta users
well, not until school starts again anyway
( HappyToast sorted on, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:36, archived)

*smothers in hugs*
;)
( in vino veritas, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:51, archived)

kids will
always be kids. Until they grow up.
( Pasanonic so I compo anything with words, right?, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:07, archived)

maybe not,
but by failing to take this kind of thing to e-mail, and using a /board thread to snipe...

a) other people's hard work gets pushed off the first page and

b) the hummus gets diluted with bile, vitriol and flamethrower fuel, rendering it unappetising.
 
(charliek .: idly prodding the mediocrity envelope :., Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:49, archived)

artists man
so emotional

:D
( Discomeats I like pies!, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:56, archived)

I'm not sure
whether 'liking' ever came into it. I'd feel pissed off if someone accused me of applying a filter when I've crafted something akin to this with my bare hands. Of course you're within your rights to dislike the end product but I'm not sure that's the issue.

I don't want to get into fistses-cuffs or anything. Or do I? I haven't thought it through.
( An Eagle in Your Mind, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:37, archived)

Pew Pew is quite right to justify himself
I just think it shouldn't be done by trying to drag everyone else in to it and gang up against Pasanonic who it seems isn't here to justify his comments.

Sounds like a fairly innocent mistake to me though, he thought it was a filter job, to a degree, that's a compliment for being so accurate in the copy.
( HappyToast sorted on, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:42, archived)

With all respect to that
but Panasonics work never amounts to more than filters or tracing or bad colouring, generally omitting to mention he didn't draw the original himself, added to that he used to be Zoot Cadilliac and changed his name after he was chased off the board for various reasons.
(Sticky Label, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:44, archived)

Nostradamus would tell us what to do

( ClanSoul http://www.clansoul.com/community/, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:18, archived)

Gotcha!
You make sense. How am I going to get a fight out of this?

Fancy an arm wrestle?
( An Eagle in Your Mind, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:45, archived)

go for it
are we allowing table holding with the other hand or not?
( HappyToast sorted on, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:47, archived)

I was under the impression
we would hold each other's hands under the table?

I must have been playing it wrong all these years.
( An Eagle in Your Mind, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:49, archived)

this
exactly what i mean but phrased concisely
(boris the spider Iggle Piggle is a pimp., Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:45, archived)

Just wanted to set the record straight in case other people believed him
Anyway, I'll shut up about it now. If you zombify me.
( Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:54, archived)

NO U

( mofaha, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:37, archived)

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I'm telling the dinner lady!

( HappyToast sorted on, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:40, archived)

SHE'S YOUR MUM LOL

( The Hedgehog From Hell 's days are numbered, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:42, archived)

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

( HappyToast sorted on, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:43, archived)

*fires spit balls*
haha.
(SuperDave http://www.mysoti.com/mysoti/designer/sooperdave, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:38, archived)

gosh that is fab.
WOO!
( MrA, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:31, archived)

top pics
pasonic seems to make plenty of enemys for himself on here
(viewtiful-si is listening to gary numan, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:32, archived)

I've never had a problem with Pasasonic
but probably only because I haven't ever spoken to him. He seems to be disliked by pretty much everyone else here though.


And your drawings are very woo indeed, Mr. Lasers.
(Pavlov'sDog Sit! Pavlov'sDog, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:33, archived)

Marlon Brando never said that!
Ha ha ha, nicely justified.

Woo to the skillz. I don't know where the original thread went but I should've given it the props deserved at the original moment.

I'm a mess. Sorry.
( An Eagle in Your Mind, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:33, archived)

strangely enough
he hasnt commented on this thread...
( Devil Duck: ( ' )< and his cunning stunts, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:34, archived)

a photocopier
would save you some time.
( frogdoctor learning the hard way since 1972., Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:36, archived)

I think I know what you mean,
but photorealistic pics can be fun to make.
( mofaha, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:42, archived)

^this
:)
( in vino veritas, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:57, archived)

I can't even draw.
I don't even have any artistic ability.
I don't even have a life.

Be glad you aren't ME.

Don't mess with my b3ta. It's all I have.

Now, a cup of coffee.
( cowcat Darling fascist bullyboy., Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:36, archived)

^i fall in this category!

(Pavlov'sDog Sit! Pavlov'sDog, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:45, archived)

erroneous sanctimony
is a popular passtime around these parts. or even just sanctimony itself -- witness the "fail" thread below. i've no problem with pasanonic and i like what he posts. i've also no problem with you and i liked the brando pic and i'd have liked whatever either of you did whether it was done with filters or done by hand. kudos for defending yourself though, i wish i could draw that well.
(boris the spider Iggle Piggle is a pimp., Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:44, archived)

Having read the original thread
it would appear that PPL has already defended himself with some vigour!
( mamilla_sarsum FWAPs for Jesus, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:54, archived)

95% of "fail" pics are posted in good humoured jest
and are part of the fun of B3ta
( CanonCaliber I'll laugh if you laugh, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:06, archived)

I thought your Brando was fantastic
And everyone who tries to say otherwise is a big, mean poopoohead. That'll teach 'em.
(thick as a brick I think a no, I mean a yes, but it's all wrong, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:51, archived)

nicely shopped!
nicely shopped!i agree, you drew it all along, and very good it was too. personally, i'm not sure what pasanonic was banging on about but i don't think it's that worth getting worked up about. let's all sit down and have a nice cuppa, shall we?
( plentyofants can't start a fire without a spork, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 16:54, archived)

never occured to me it was a filter job
but then I'm a pencil doodler, and thats doodler, as you drawing is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than my shit

and I like it when people do it properly, or use pens for that matter

I wonder how many artists there would be without photoshop and it's like

anyway, try think happier thoughts, shit just drags you down and too many folk come along for the ride
:)


oh, incase of confusion, thats a fucking excellent drawing
( Discomeats I like pies!, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:00, archived)

The drawing is great btw
*CLICKS*
( SkUG is glad to be out of hospital (stupid lungs), Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:06, archived)

Dickhead
do your pencils not work over page creases? Perhaps you have an auto delete on. I see your efforts to make it look real and it's a quality shop. Perhaps you should do more of this and stop being a lying cunt and trying to make me look bad.

I also love how your 'pencil' work has such a decise, clean edge to the picture . Everyone has that talent.. I know my cheats and you are good one.
( Pasanonic so I compo anything with words, right?, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:20, archived)

O_o
he uses an eraser for the white bits, isn't it obvious?
anyway I've had enough of this shite
( Bloop falafelly versatile, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:26, archived)

you really are miles out on this one...that's a sketch :)

( prodigy69 uncle 2.0, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:35, archived)

do you really believe this is a fake
or are you taking the piss?
( Mousing, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:36, archived)

I know it's a fake
why the fuck would you sketch all the background defects and edge faults? You would, as a discerning artist, use your discretion and make it look right. You would not sketch in all the details and defects from the original picture.

it would never happen. Akvis sketch filter.
( Pasanonic so I compo anything with words, right?, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:51, archived)

Why?
OCD?

*taps table eight times and rubs right earlobe*
( An Eagle in Your Mind, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 17:57, archived)

You would sketch it because that's what is on the original
It's not a trace, but a copy. And in fairness he's done a damn fine job, copying everything down to the background, and what the hell is wrong with that? If it was a shop then the background could easily have been cloned out. He has used his discretion to make it look "right". The background detail is part of the original, henceforth right.

You could have admitted your mistake and apologised, but now you're just being plain stubborn.

If he's that good a shopper as you claim, then he surely wouldn't have needed a filter to do something like that to begin with.
(shovelboy This is bad - Two minutes to Belgium, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 18:24, archived)

by the way you lying cunt
your sketch book seems to be made up of a photocopy / cheap print on the left and a reasonable, but noticeable photoshop on the right.

I'll take it on the chin all day, but please don't call me a liar when it's obvious for anyone who makes art that you are a lying cunt.
( Pasanonic so I compo anything with words, right?, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 18:22, archived)

aha
your head appears to have popped back out of your ringpiece.

Do yourself a favour and be quiet. You haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Idiot.
( Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 19:49, archived)

Oh and btw
This 'kid' is 35 years old, self employed, with his own house and a much larger brain than yours, with a degree of talent you only surpass when it comes to being a complete cunt. And just to make you eat your fucking semi-intelligent rabble of a post, have a butcher's at this unfiltered and much higher resolution scan of the image I spent hours drawing over the last few days. Cropped because I can't be arsed uploading an 8MB image just to satisfy you.

www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1019631311&size=o

Then when you've looked at that image and realised what a spectacularly stupid arse you are, perhaps you'll disappear back up your rusty sheriff's badge and not reappear. You're quite reviled on this board.
( Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 20:09, archived)

haha
what a fucking idiot. Please point out a single pencil stroke in that image.

I hate to do this but I stand by my convictions. You sir, are a lying cunt.
( Pasanonic so I compo anything with words, right?, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 22:00, archived)

And you sir
obviously know nothing. You're either trolling, or you're a talentless arse.

Either way, you're a cock. The funny thing is that everybody here knows it, and those that don't only have to read what you're typing to reach the same conclusion.
( Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Sun 5 Aug 2007, 22:33, archived)