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This is a link post Quite brilliant take down of gun control in the States by Australian comedian, Jim Jefferies
17 min, but worth every moment.
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post GC
This GC does not stand for Gun Control, sadly. I'll let it slide though, cos it's ace. Especially the bit getting the gun from the safe.
 (I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post I watched this first thing this morning over cup of tea
and was literally howling when he got onto the safe
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've watched that the few other times it has been posted here, and while parts are funny, it really isn't a rebuttal.
The US does not have secure borders and drugs and guns cross almost without impediment any more. Recent reports that over 150,000 people convicted of violent and sexual crimes were released back into the populace because of new immigration policies and the urge to make police more docile lead one to believe that no one can rely on government for protection.
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post Your name is 'gunmetal', dude.

(eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha!!!

(I helped save b3ta! Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Usually the guns go out of the US, not in.
Otherwise the whole place would be covered in about a foot of guns...
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 17:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Are you saying those criminals should have had life-sentences, then?
Because when criminals have served their sentence, the usual practice is to release them back into the populace. Not sure what it has to do with owning guns.

Also, plenty of guns are made within the US borders, so even stopping all those weapons crossing your borders would do practically nothing to curb the sheer quantity and availability of weapons within them already.

Lastly, I haven't heard anything about that last bit, but I highly doubt the US government has said to the police "Now lads, calm yourselves down a bit and stop arresting so many baddies". That one might need explaining to me.
 (I helped save b3ta! Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post You are correct...
In fact the US government has been supplying surplus military equipment to police agencies around the country.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/30/military-hardware-still-flowing-to-local-police-af/?page=all
 (I helped save b3ta! BaronMunchausen Interdimensional Demon Day Laborer, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly. This has been happening since there is apparently no more war in Iraq.
However, many on the left and the right aren't comfortable with it.

Eg. www.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/missouri-ferguson-police-tactics/
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post 16,000 arrest warrants outstanding in Ferguson for a population of 21,000
police hand them out for things like "Manner of Walking in Roadway," "High Grass and Weeds," "14 kinds of parking violation"
It's basically a massive con job, minor fines to take money from people that don't have it.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's really not that out of the ordinary and occurs throughout the United States. One always slows down at the end of the month because cops have to get their quota of tickets.
I mean, what use is there to issuing citations if people aren't going to respect them? It comes out as somewhat incendiary, probably because the DOJ was hurting that the police shooting was justified and that the "hands up, don't shoot" thing never happened.

But, there is an increasing problem with the feds, states and municipalities seizing cash and assets and never giving it back. www.b3ta.com/links/1289026
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 16:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post There are towns that depend on fines for 60% of their budget... But taxes are tea party low!
And if you don't pay, you get sent to jail, for debt.

Debtor jails were outlawed in the US LOOONG ago, this is abnormal.
You lot should be fighting and rating lyrical on this not on if your M16 can have a 20,30 or 100 round mag.

I mean "priorities" for fuck sake.

"First they come to take our guns..." ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
At this rate, it's the last thing they'll pick up after sucking the marrow out of your cold dead bones.

You lot have a class problem not seen since the Middle Ages and are still hiding behind tired Cold War rhetoric.

"Breathes deeply"
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 19:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post You seem to take every side of the argument in all your heavy breathing.
I realize seeing my username makes you instantly a contrarian, but do think of your blood pressure.
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Thu 26 Mar 2015, 13:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post To be honest if I was a cop in a country with that many automatic guns and lethal firearms
I would want to be as militarized as possible
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 16:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post There are actually very few automatic weapons in the hands of civilians and are hyper-regulated.
But yes, firearms can be lethal and kill a lot of cops. Few of those were possessed and obtained legally.
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 16:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post Can you source the "very few" estimate?
Conservative estimates I've seen suggest there are 1 million+ automatic weapons in the US. Not exactly "very few."
 (I helped save b3ta! BaronMunchausen Interdimensional Demon Day Laborer, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 17:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post According to 2014 figures:
That would put US automatic gun owners 4th in the World ranking of land armies.
Above Russia, below India.
Two countries with active conflicts.
That's insane.

www.globalfirepower.com/active-military-manpower.asp
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 17:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know where they get their stats. I've read there are about 250,000 in private and government hands.
Try this, which is from the Bureau of Justice statistics: www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 17:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post 23rd, between Mexico and Japan then.

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 19:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post So you DO trust your gouverment for at least ONE thing!
Zing!
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 19:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post These had not served sentences, but were convicted. They were just not institutionalized.
And yes, guns are made within our borders and are subject to stricter and stricter regulation. There are straw purchasers that buy for small town hoods and home burglaries are another source. Not really having a southern border makes it difficult to prevent all sorts of contraband. Legal gun owners rarely kill one another.

And the union heads have been complaining loudly about the conditions on the border from a law enforcement and officer safety stand point. It is not heavily reported, but they report being told to allow known criminals, gang and cartel members and to not arrest drunk drivers. Here's a start, but likely not reported by MSNBC. Here's one about drunk drivers, and the other internal leaked memos have not been denied by the White House, but are found on sites that lean conservative, so you may not believe that they possess such a document.
www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2015/02/20/border-patrol-tell-agents-stop-drunken-drivers/23782947/
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post So you own guns then?

(I helped save b3ta! Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nice try. You think I want you robbing my apartment so you can steal my guns and sell them for crack?

(I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 16:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post "Takes notes"
"Lives - in - an - appartement"
That narrows it down.
"Gets tactical bag ready - checks HILO parachute - puts black face paint on - checks mag and bolt on Sig Sauer P226..."
Comin'to get that Deeezerteeegle \o/
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 17:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post The P226 is a sweet pistol, but spendy.

(I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 17:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Loves knows no sticker price.

(smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 20:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've never understood that argument put at the door of lefties
that they would want a docile police force. It doesn't make any sense. It just seems like one of same old arguments of paranoia for spending money on guns by people who love them, or profit from them
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post I like Jim
But of all the deadbeat commedians, Stanhope is my favourite.
 (I helped save b3ta! Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 15:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post guns, guns, guns, lookin' for a good time...

(theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 16:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post That was great cheers, big laugh at the "you're a great little saver" point.

(I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 17:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post So, I've had gunmental on 'ignore' for, like, forever:
So, *exactly* how crazy has he gone on this thread then?
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 18:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Same here, no idea.
blissful isn't it?
 (I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 18:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post You don't want to know.

(I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 22:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post He talks about eating Oreos and enjoying them.
He's too far gone to help now.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 22:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post He was asking for your address
Something about 'showing you his arsenal'. Or something.

I gave him the address, hope that's ok
 (I helped save b3ta! simbosan liked your link on, Wed 25 Mar 2015, 23:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post fuck off
The unsolicited opinion is rejected.

Hate guns. Don't own them. But I'm never in the mood for a Brit, Canadian, or Aussie to presume to lecture me on anything at all that bears on our Constitution. Just piss right off. The lot of you. And take your sanctimonious exceedingly cuntish opinions with you.
 (I helped save b3ta! kombu dashi, Thu 26 Mar 2015, 6:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Kilospoons of irony

(I helped save b3ta! Peej, Thu 26 Mar 2015, 8:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^this: irony squared.
Fuck off back to posting your unsolicited opinions on american websites, please.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 26 Mar 2015, 16:03, , Reply)