Excellent combo
That lad cannot be accused of having a glass jaw
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SpookySpoon www.vivino.com/users/hig.func, Mon 22 Aug 2016, 14:48,
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Wow. Did well to stay on his feet after that.
That body shot is why I don't worry about a bit of extra belly padding when I spar.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 22 Aug 2016, 15:21,
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Beautiful, just beautiful.
Some gorgeous fighting that night. Larkin's demolition of Magny's leg, Means' steady breakdown of Homasi, Johnson's one-hit KO of Texeira, a five-round war of a main event, and then there's this. Clean, perfectly timed technique. Cerrone may never hold a title, but the last year has shown that it's not necessarily the best fighter who wears the belt.
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clockworkrat has nice pants, Mon 22 Aug 2016, 22:28,
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That's horrible
Can someone explain to me why this is not just boxing with wrestling or mixed marital arts (I have no experience of either)? Watching the Olympics why doesn't a taekwondo bod get in the ring and kick the opponents head off? Even in bouts at the Olympics and both contestants knowing what to expect they could not stop head kicks which if really followed through would be devastating rather than scoring for points
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spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Mon 22 Aug 2016, 23:12,
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It's mixed martial arts.
Points sparring is a very different game to 10pt must/KO/submission fighting. When a point is called the fight is reset which means building up the sorts of combinations that tend to lead to KOs is far more difficult. You also need to remember that a kick to the head will need to travel much further than any other legal strike - long enough for an experienced competitor to dodge/parry/counter.
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clockworkrat has nice pants, Mon 22 Aug 2016, 23:54,
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Try it.
"why doesn't a taekwondo bod get in the ring and kick the opponents head off? "
tldr; - punches are faster than kicks.
Longer version:
It's been tried. When "mixed martial arts" was just starting out and purporting to represent what fighting is really like, you would see exactly that - some big gangly TKD player squaring off against a boxer, or a wiry little Wing Chun dude getting in the ring with someone who did Judo or whatever. People tied to a single system of fighting pretty quickly had the weaknesses of that system shown to them. TKD black belts can win fights against other, less skilled TKD fighters... but put them up against someone whose background is grappling, and those big kicks are just handing them something that's easy to grab.
What you see in the cage nowadays is the distilled essence of what actually works under that set of rules (and despite any hype there's a LOT of rules, and they're not all the same so take what follows as possibly over-specific) - and it looks NOTHING like TKD. From what I can make out (and I've never trained in MMA, although my ex's brother was/is pretty good) the things that seem to work are:
- kickboxing, more or less,
- jujitsu, more or less,
- er...
- that's it.
Fundamentally, when standing up you kick and punch like a kickboxer, but unless you can knock the guy out (which is less likely than it is in "normal" boxing because the gloves are thinner so you can't hit as hard) it almost invariably comes down to grappling sooner or later. No amount of TKD training will help when your opponent is choking you unconscious on the ground.
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Cheers to above
Makes a bit more sense. Just boiled down into what will work against someone who knows what might be coming and is prepared.
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spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Tue 23 Aug 2016, 20:43,
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