how derren brown's lottery trick might have been done I made this!
maybe... well its how I would have done it anyway. I think "a year in the making" might be exaggerating a bit
( mutated monty, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:20, Reply)

This seems to be the popular theory
I myself am happy to go with the fact he used magic (and goblins)
Oh and very well done btw!
( The magic of chutney in a state of "not", Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:22, Reply)

magical goblins ftw

( Floppy Donkey CZARS!, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:26, Reply)

there was something very phoney about his 'hand held' camera movement
still we might all be wrong.
( mutated monty, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:29, Reply)

I suspect you have got it bang on the nail.. including the camera shake (how'd you do that?)
But as mentioned below...it just seems dissapointing if it turns out it was all done by digital pokery. I wanted it to be something more..well... clever frankly.
( The magic of chutney in a state of "not", Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:35, Reply)

if that's how it was done i'll eat my shoes, it's not his style at all
fret ye not, i'll be something jaw dropping tomorrow night
( sock Please call me Otto Utterfucker, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:37, Reply)

maybe you're taking part in the real trick right now
( spagaroony, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:43, Reply)

if this was how it was done then its not too far removed from the old methods of using mirrors i guess
the fact that it wasn't done in front of an audience makes me suspect the fixed view point is a big factor in the illusion. It could still have been done with clever mirror trickery.

In the end most solutions to magic tricks are a let-down when they are revealed
( mutated monty, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:44, Reply)

yeah this almost without fail
it's almost a let down finding out how tricks are done because the "magic" disappears, i just can't see derren brown doing something so simplistic
( sock Please call me Otto Utterfucker, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 13:00, Reply)

camera shake could be done live a couple of ways:
either by animating the whole screen moving randomly like i did or by using a camera mounted to some kind of device that moves it in a pre-programmed way (and duplicating that movement on the pre-recorded split screen to match)
( mutated monty, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:54, Reply)

yeah - doing a grand reveal is a bit odd
as most magic is pretty dull once you know the trick. "oh you cheated" is always the answer.

unless I suppose he doesn't actually use the Friday show to tell the truth - he is all about misdirection after all.
( rob twitter.com/robmanuel is following you, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 13:23, Reply)

He actually robbed everyone of their socks
whilst they were watching the show.
( BindiBaji, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 13:58, Reply)

yes

(B3taByter Meh, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:28, Reply)

would suck slightly if it was a simple filming trick
Derren's magic is usually more magic than that :(
( Mushroom, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:30, Reply)

If this is the way he did it I don't know how he's going to drag this "revelation" out for a whole "behind the magic" tv show
Either way the man is CREEPY!
( Joliet has a bun in the oven. Gas Mark 1 for 9 months, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:30, Reply)

I imagine this will be only a tiny tiny feature in the program
I'll forgive him if it has been done this way. Dezzer B is my hero.
( shoddyback nice 2 B important, but more important 2 B nice, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 16:13, Reply)

It almost seems too obvious to be the solution
If there isn't another angle to it somewhere, he's really gone downhill from his normal "make people think they're being attacked, kidnapped or killed" type malarky.
(Cap'n, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:31, Reply)

Entirely possible, most probably not. I mean, sure this is a huge fake but derren brown just split screening? never!
( citricsquid, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:36, Reply)

I concur
My thought was that this was how he did it, however it doesn't seem convoluted enough for Mr Browns work.
(SomeLousyBum Why where you bought it?!, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:38, Reply)

I prefer this one to Derrens version
( spagaroony, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:39, Reply)

The beard does it for me.
( citricsquid, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:42, Reply)

I say
Thermal Labels and some kind of directed heat device. Might explain why the balls appeared to move if they were being warmed.
(Enditallnow, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:54, Reply)

I think that's enough about Derrens trouser regions, thank you.

(SomeLousyBum Why where you bought it?!, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 12:57, Reply)

If they can make Brad Pitt look look younger
they can probably scribble some text on some ping pong balls...
(gaijintendo v2.0 compressed, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 18:29, Reply)

There's no other way it could have been done, really.
Still clever.
( Jimbotfu is fisting your ear, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 13:11, Reply)

he didnt win anything - it was staged
the prize break down shows - no one won!

Hahaha

www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/lotto/results/prizeBreakdown.ftl
(Dan dan dan is just on the right side of good, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:20, Reply)

that's interesting
but that would mean the lottery was rigged and I'm fairly sure that's illegal

however it also means he didn't buy a ticket which he would have done if he could really predict the numbers
( VampireMonkeyOnSpeed unexpected arse in the bagging area, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 19:12, Reply)

damn right....
if he had done the show and bought a ticket (and subsequently claimed the winnings) I'd say he could. But then no one actually believes he can - it's just wondering which of 10 ways possible he chose to do it by.
( thiswasmyclone, Fri 11 Sep 2009, 3:21, Reply)

could be but I would have thought he would do something a bit more interesting
I reckon each of the balls have tiny lcd screens controlled by blue-tooth
( VampireMonkeyOnSpeed unexpected arse in the bagging area, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 19:09, Reply)

The stand with the balls
is much closer to the rear wall than it looks - watch how DB has to shuffle round to get behind it.

All that establishing shot from the rear of the theatre is to make you think there's lots of space (and no locked off camera).

A camera mounted to rotate about its nodal point would allow you to film against a big photograph backdrop and yet have the perspective always correct. Whether the camera shake was added artificially, or simply by rocking the camera on its mount is irrelevant.

With the balls very close to the back wall you can poke the numbers through onto the balls with a stick really easily and not actually need any camera trickery at all.

The fact that one of the balls moves confirms something odd is going on with them, but I'd go for numbers on a stick over camera trickery.
( chthonic, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 21:21, Reply)

Also - all the numbers were written facing up out of the holder
which adds credence to the concept of someone writing it on the ping-pong balls in situ.
(gaijintendo v2.0 compressed, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 23:18, Reply)

ohhh
good idea
( Obz Click, ting, stamps, Fri 11 Sep 2009, 15:43, Reply)

Guardian FP (as of noon Friday)!
www.guardian.co.uk/
Well played mutated monty.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Fri 11 Sep 2009, 12:49, Reply)

Well played on getting national coverage with this vid!
Also love the style of your vids, good work!
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Sat 12 Sep 2009, 8:43, Reply)