Stop being so fucking reasonable.
*flounces*
( Tab Hunter NEXT SHOUT OF "GC" GETS A PUNISHMENT BUMMING ON, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 9:49, Reply)

Hahaha!
Some one said I should start a blog and call it 'The Voice of Reason' and use it as my soapbox to counter my urge to rant about the last news article or similar thing that bugged me for its slanted opinion sans balanced thought on every site I frequent.

Actually thinking about it. Thing that puts me off is the way things are going it'll prolly either get barred or have the nice thought police knockin on my door. Certainly my opinions on chems and the way this government reacts to their recreational uses wouldn't go down so well with them.

Btw as per my suspicions thru recent gov actions, the gov is apparently trying to push thru new legislation that will effectively ban ALL psycho active chems new and old regardless of any considerations of criminal involvement in their production or victims in their sales or use, just simply 'cos they might possibly cause a state of higher consciousness will be enough.

Can't have people thinking FFS!
( WiL Pantheist Bi Polar Polyamoric Pansexual, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:04, Reply)

Erm...
people don't need psychoactive chemicals in order to think.

They just need to want to.
(Pie of Meat ___°¬¯O¯____\o/_____/\_,____Y¯¯Y, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:19, Reply)

^this
I'm not down on psychoactive drugs, but have see a fair few casualties of 'em.
I can see that they help people open their mind to new ideas, but people can do that anyway, if they actually put the effort in.
( Tab Hunter NEXT SHOUT OF "GC" GETS A PUNISHMENT BUMMING ON, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:23, Reply)

Not all keys to the doors of perception are cut the same.

( Amadeus I care not for your thoughts on grammer, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:31, Reply)

Yeh it's true, a lot of folks don't react well to them or do them in the wrong surroundings
They can totally fuck with your head in the wrong circumstances, not denying that.

But equally, there are an awful lot of much more legal much more freely available chems, or indeed illegal chems, capable and indeed currently causing much more harm, that aren't being trodden upon by gov policy nearly so much, as I've said before, put the known common drugs in an order of actual possible or proven harm to the user, or harm to those producing them, and they'll form a shape completely at odds to what we're told is the reasons why they are being controlled so vehemently.
( WiL Pantheist Bi Polar Polyamoric Pansexual, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:44, Reply)

And do you see any evidence the gov wants to put any effort into making or even allowing us to do that?
I'm seeing a fair amount that's starting to make me think they definitely do not. Ignorance is bliss and ignorant people, if they get involved in politics at all, tend to do as the tabloids tell them and go fairly right wing. We currently have a right wing government losing its grip on controlling the masses thru the media, every typical tory action they try to take is being countered and revised by online twitter and such and I think they're starting to panic a bit.

I would love to see this argued on a TV debate with someone like Alan Moore and Stephen Fry in residence, spouting out all the vast rich history of culture, creativity and even entire cultural movements many of which we've all benefitted from all being fuelled by recreational use of pyscho active chems, now under threat of ever being repeated.

It could in many ways be seen as the black slab depicted in 2001.
( WiL Pantheist Bi Polar Polyamoric Pansexual, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 11:01, Reply)

Govenments want people to be able to function for the good of society.
Remember when pubs closed early on sundays?
That was so you were able to be bright and productive on a monday.
Somebodys got to keep the wheels turning and they don't want them getting
flighty ideas about playing sitars and writing poetry.

If you want to take drugs then do so.
The best way to change a law is to make it irrelevant.
Just do what you're doing and if enough people do the same it will
go the same way as pornography laws.
Remember when it was illegal for you to see a picture of an erect cock?
( Amadeus I care not for your thoughts on grammer, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 11:15, Reply)

I've a strong suspicion when they just ban everything pyscho active the inter webs will find a way around it
Direct import from source maybe, but you are then a criminal by doing so, and I just hate the idea that you're being criminalised for doing nothing wrong, really.

Last thing we need what with the state of prisons being what it is.
( WiL Pantheist Bi Polar Polyamoric Pansexual, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 11:25, Reply)

An awful lot of people do need to think better tho,
And certain chems will do that as a side effect of their usage.

A lot of folks out there now with nothing to do and all the time and all the world to do it in, gov wants them to sit at home all day and be good little boys and do nothing at all, certain chems may awaken their senses and mind to finding a purpose beyond drinking, self obliteration, or fighting amongst themselves, they have a way of doing that, it's not really that they make you more clever, not that we all need them to think, just that they do often get you using your imagination and brain, and hence often see things around you more clearly, and bond with your fellow down trodden, and certain folks might benefit from that, and certain governments might not.

I am increasingly coming to the opinion thru observation of various govs policies on drug control going way back, and certainly recently with the rise of non criminally farmed victimless 'legal high' production distribution and usage, that they're not only aware of this 'threat', but actively making it their central policy on policing us over their use and long since been lying to us about their true reasons. They've been straining at the bit to find some reasonable way of banning every pycho active chem produced there in, jumping at every drug related death to hopefully find a legal pyscho active one was involved, and it's just not been happening with enough regularity to qualify their actions, too many folks are being far too sensible in their usage, so seems now they've simply given up trying to qualify it as protection of victims and just outright making their stance against certain chems being available at all completely overt.

I'm not comfortable with that.

*mainly not comfy with the fact there has been no outside debate presenting both sides.
( WiL Pantheist Bi Polar Polyamoric Pansexual, Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:35, Reply)