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This is a normal post oh sorry, my mistake...
remind me, how did that war on drugs work out?
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post nothing like this?


You can't 'take' guns.

How did banning automatic weapons and hand guns work out in the UK?

Oh yeah....really fucking well.
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post oh yeah...
i remember well when the UK decided to ban outright handguns post Dunblane, even though their ownership was already extremely strictly regulated. i felt then, as i do now, that a total blanket ban was a knee-jerk over-reaction made by fools who believe that they can legislate against the dark side of human nature. it didn't work out particularly well as guess what, some people don't give a shit if is a handgun is illegal or not, and many handguns continue to be used to wound and kill, so it didn't solve the problem.

as for the banning of automatic weapons, i don't remember that, because it never fucking happened, because they were never legal in the first place.
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post You wouldn't remember automatic weapons being banned
it was in 1937.

Semi-automatics went after Hungerford.

Handguns after Dunblane. As you say 'strictly regulated' but not so strictly that Thomas Hamilton couldn't own several...

How many people were shot and killed by handguns in 2011 in the UK?
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:01, , Reply)
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what, am i your google bitch now? don't know, don't care, going to the pub, yes banning all guns will solve everthing in a very short period of time, it is also a realistic and achievable political aim that will easily be legislated for. oh and aren't americans cunts? happy now?
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Have fun!

(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post 2010/11 figures reveal offences commited with handguns was at 3,105
down from its peak (since 1969) of 5,874 in 2002, yet still not below the pre 1996 average. the number of offences committed with shotguns, which happen to be legal btw, was 608.
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post hand gun crime went up

(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post crime gun hand went up

(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post gun up went hand crime

(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post up went gun crime hand?

(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 19:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Define "Hand gun crime".
If the statistics include the new offence of "posession", then of course they'll go up.
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post the statistics do not include posession, they are crimes in which handguns were used, robbery etc

(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Handguns are smaller
hence, easier to conceal, ship, sell illegally etc etc
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post yes
and?
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:42, , Reply)
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yes
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:43, , Reply)
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That would be an ecumenical matter
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Guns became illegal.
If you want to keep / sell an illegal item, you'll want to keep it hidden. Small things hide easy. It's in their nature.
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post that doesn't explain why the use of handguns in violent crime went up though does it?

(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post But did the use of larger, automatic weapons and shotguns go down?
I don't have any stats, but they more than likely did, and were replaced by easier to conceal handguns. There are prob a lot of other factors at play here, if the fact that what you state is even true at all.
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post what larger automatic weapons?
there a lot of factors at play, which is why effective policing and education work a lot better than blanket bans.
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn01940.pdf
(, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 19:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm sorry I don't agree.
If guns are made illegal, ie hard to get hold of them, you will reduce these problems. Gun crime will still happen, it's inevitable, but making them less available helps to control them against pointless misuses (a 6 year old child finding his parents guns and shooting his brother dead for example)
(, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:12, , Reply)