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This is a normal post is that loudquietloud
or is this something else?
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 13:29, Reply)
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they show that now and again too, but no it's not that mockumentary.
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 13:32, Reply)
This is a normal post righto
I recorded that ages ago and havent got round to watching it yet.

So, I won't have this then.

*sets record*

Ta
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 13:45, Reply)
This is a normal post at the risk of being accussed of working for Murdoch...
sky arts 1 is surprisingly good for rock gigs and docs.
now and again they also show Pixies live at the 2004 Eurockeenes festival, also worth recording.
Loudquietloud is also fun, but no real insight as they're mainly just taking the piss.
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 13:56, Reply)
This is a normal post He's right you know

(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 14:04, Reply)
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/\ this. It also has the best books coverage on TV by a country mile.
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 14:12, Reply)
This is a normal post its fucking annoying isn't it
saw a brill docco on there a few weeks back about the Sheffield sound of the 70s/80s

Fucking brilliant it was
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 14:25, Reply)
This is a normal post doesn't annoy me...
it's free on the most basic packages and is much more relevant to me than BBC4 ever has been. why resent good arts coverage just because your tv license didn't pay for it?
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 14:32, Reply)
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I think it's because by watching it you are supporting an empire which is hell-bent on reducing mainstream culture to its lowest common denominator.

There's a reason that Sky's arts coverage is untainted by Murdoch interference - it's not something he can reduce, repackage & re-sell.
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 14:46, Reply)
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er, i think mainstream culture has always sought to appeal to the lowest common denominator in the modern era. which is why i hate the BBC as their main prioity seems to chasing ratings by churning out shit like BBC 3's entire content, eastenders, strictly come prancing, radio 1 and 2, total wipeout, casualty, holby city, the voice etc etc. why should i subsidise that utter utter pony via a mandatory tax when it is more than adequately provided for by the commercial market? they are a state funded broadcaster and as such have obscene advantage over their commercial rivals, over-staffed and over-funded and spending their funds mainly on crap that is contrary to the very remit that granted their state funding. which they then repackage and re-sell through BBC worldwide in an attempt to foist their dumbed down shit on the rest of the world and make people like jeremy clarkson multi-millionaires

i went for a job at The Sun once. first interview lasted about an hour, the second an hour and a half, the third less than twenty minutes because i expressed similar views. who'd have thought it? i thought i'd be preaching to the choir.
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 15:13, Reply)
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I think the BBC is a different issue. Murdoch is intent on doing the above, the BBC is doing it out of fear and incompetence as well as perennial government pressure.

edit: at its best, the BBC is one of Europe's most important institutions, and its news services are the best in the world. Radios 1 & 2 are for a specific audience, just as R3,R4, 5live, 1xtra & 6music are. I would argue they each cater to their audiences excellently.

TV is where it lets itself down, as it is under constant external pressure (both real and perceived)to offer the dumb crap that its commercial rivals do, and also to find supplementary revenue streams, hence the distinctly distasteful influence of BBC Worldwide (the reason no season of Dr Who is allowed to leave the Daleks alone, and why there has to be constant new versions of them - BBC Worldwide controls all the merchandising and funds part of Dr Who's budget).

The biggest problem, however, is that most of its commissioning editors are Oxbridge clowns with no talent or instinct for what they do.
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 15:26, Reply)
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i don't think it's fear but i agree with incompetence. i think over-funding is a massive issue combined with a lack of creativity. ITV led the way with huge rating soap operas so the BBC followed, same with reality shows and new style 'talent' shows etc, simply for a share of the ratings. the DQF idea would be great, if they did it, because the ratings would follow, but they don't. they don't ask what would be good, they ask what will get ratings i.e. what's the lowest common denominator. why aren't the BBC producing any great dramas like HBO and the rest? maybe you're right, it is fear of not getting ratings, when the finally did get The Wire they scheduled it like utter twunts.

EDIT: i take issue with 'one of europe's most important institutions', when i lived in germany and later france i have no recollection whatsoever of any of the natives expressing any view on it at all, the frogs always bring up Mr Bean and Benny Hill, but they were ITV.
their news coverage has its failings IMHO, the line between reportage and editorialising is very fucking blurry at times.
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 15:42, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this^
I'd rather not give Murdoch a single shiny penny of my cash, I can't get Virgin, and I don't want BT giving my details to lawyers over my internet usage.

SO if I want Sky Arts I have to have Sky
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 15:26, Reply)
This is a normal post I've got the Eurockeenes one
And now I think I may already have this too
(, Tue 5 Feb 2013, 14:13, Reply)