I did lots of unpaid "work experience"
From about the age of 14 upwards. How did I afford it? I lived with my folks (as you would expect at that age) and I had a weekend paper round which paid for my travel (which was £1.20 a day to get to anywhere in London).
This enabled me to have a much better CV than my peers which I began looking for work, so I got a better salary.
An internship or work experience is NOT the same as slavery. Slaves have no choice or say in the matter and there is a massive massive distinction.
Saying the two are the same IS simply wrong.
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From about the age of 14 upwards. How did I afford it? I lived with my folks (as you would expect at that age) and I had a weekend paper round which paid for my travel (which was £1.20 a day to get to anywhere in London).
This enabled me to have a much better CV than my peers which I began looking for work, so I got a better salary.
An internship or work experience is NOT the same as slavery. Slaves have no choice or say in the matter and there is a massive massive distinction.
Saying the two are the same IS simply wrong.
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Fair enough.
But it still seems wrong and exploitative to me to expect a grown adult (graduate or otherwise) to work for nothing.
"I put up with it, why shouldn't everybody else?" is not a valid argument.
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But it still seems wrong and exploitative to me to expect a grown adult (graduate or otherwise) to work for nothing.
"I put up with it, why shouldn't everybody else?" is not a valid argument.
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But they aren't any use yet
What sort of useful computer work (for example) would I expect to get from an untrained 14 year old.
Essentially you're really giving them free training at the expense of one of your paid employees time.
Cash isn't the only for of renumeration; Skills and experience are worth something, thats what I'm trying to say.
For a year? You're joking. But for a few weeks/months it can make perfect sense.
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What sort of useful computer work (for example) would I expect to get from an untrained 14 year old.
Essentially you're really giving them free training at the expense of one of your paid employees time.
Cash isn't the only for of renumeration; Skills and experience are worth something, thats what I'm trying to say.
For a year? You're joking. But for a few weeks/months it can make perfect sense.
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Yeah I'm not talking about an untrained 14 year old though,
I'm talking about a 22 year old, with a degree. And bills to pay.
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I'm talking about a 22 year old, with a degree. And bills to pay.
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Learn PHP/HTML in about a week then
And get a job coding. You'll have no issues getting one with ease. Hell string theory and quantum mechanics are a lot more complex than that.
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And get a job coding. You'll have no issues getting one with ease. Hell string theory and quantum mechanics are a lot more complex than that.
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That was a long time ago.
I've got 3 years experience in C++ now, thanks to nepotism.
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I've got 3 years experience in C++ now, thanks to nepotism.
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One of the funniest moments I remember
was having a poo before my animal physiology exam, nervous as hell, when finished I reached for the paper and on the first sheet was written
"arts degree - please take one"
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was having a poo before my animal physiology exam, nervous as hell, when finished I reached for the paper and on the first sheet was written
"arts degree - please take one"
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