Mr Splashy Pants 2: McDonalds and Spooky Farts
After noticing a gimpy advert for a "McDonald's Playlist" on Spotify, I saw a chance for mischief. They're looking for people to submit songs from spotify to their playlist. As you can see, the current Most Popular songs are rather dry:
1. Manic Monday - Bangles
2. Lovely Day Bill - Withers
3. I Dont Feel Like Dancin - Scissor Sisters
4. Wake Up Boo! - The Boo Radleys
5. Any Way You Want It - Live - Journey
So, lets spice it up a bit. If you've got a spare 5 seconds, submit this:
spotify:track:0MfSa3apfI8jja2X0isyG1
to the site. If you're wondering what it is, check out the whole album... open.spotify.com/album/21HVnTJHnwQAIxKaXfCt5A
Why anyone would buy or listen to Spooky Farts for Halloween is completely beyond me and makes me scared for the future of the human race. Nevertheless, hopefully this will work.
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Christian Bale of Hay in a field, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 10:24,
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^This^
Have also emailed details to a few like-minded souls
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TownsendsPublisher serial philanderer, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 10:50,
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what were you searching for
when you found that halloween farts thingy?
plus, I am reminded of Father Ted when Dougal buys the BBC sound effects record, volume 6.
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Damoclaus is putting you all on the naughty list!, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 11:10,
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I searched for "farts".
I was bored.
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Christian Bale of Hay in a field, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:18,
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done
and facebooked a load of people.
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Nostrebor has a direct effect on N-WASP and SNX9 function., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:13,
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Done.
I also submitted this too...
Nasenbluten – Fxxkin Greedy Bitch: open.spotify.com/track/2dm9VS0tn5nUVe1swk3Nh2
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:32, Reply)
Done
but why the hell does that album exist?!
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TheDiscoKing is the train station, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 14:53,
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This album is perfect for my flatulance themed halloween.
I am considering getting this played at my funeral.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 22:30, Reply)
not really
1) She starts turning too early which doesn;t give her enough room to straighten out.
2) She keeps the turn going for too long so that she can't straighten up without moving onto the pavement.
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Crap Little Monkey Can't write, can't spell, no grammEr, no 'shop., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:15,
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Thanks for clearing that one up for us
I was going to blame the work of the devil
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:25,
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She probably couldn't get into bed in the first place.
End up halfway across it at an angle, hitting you in the face with her foot.
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IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis got into the Christmas spirits *hic* on, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:40,
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I want an "I Like this" button for replies
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evil_andy Went to Iceland. It rained., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:46,
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Nah, I rekon
it would be amazingly easy to ' accidentally ' take her up the arse.
(, Mon 9 Nov 2009, 11:43, Reply)
Muslim Demographics vs Reality
I made this!
The "Muslim Demographics" Video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
The BBC radio 4 response
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mINChFxRXQs
Useful sites
epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page/portal/eurostat/home/
www.statistics.gov.uk/hub/index.html
pewresearch.org/
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8189231.stm
Just because certain bullshit sounds good to you doesn't justify your acceptance of it.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 8:25, Reply)
100/10
I went to watch the "Demographic" video first, didn't even make a minute before it pissed me off enough to stop it. Thanks for creating this video, it's only a matter of time before I get peppered with the demographics video via email/facebook by the closet racists!
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 10:37,
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oh you've been peppered already?
or is thou takething teh piss?
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:22,
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Ha! Your on b3ta now :)
Have a click
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:31,
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Nicely done...
... but you forgot to mention the single biggest reason why the population is growing: to wit, people are living longer.
Oh, and the EU has 27 countries, not 31 - another reason not to believe the original vid, that noone seems to have picked up.
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Enzyme is in ur [noun]z, [verb]in' ur [noun]z, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:52,
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i liked that one a lot.
you stayed tight to the topic and though you were passionate you didn't seem shouty. i hope (but don't expect) you get 10 million views.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 14:17, Reply)
thank you for making this
the world is now a slightly better place
(clicks)
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Manic declared war on Old Media, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 14:28,
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xtranormal on your computer
GC says no
This is pretty amazing - xtranormal program, rather than doing it online - lots of fun stuff
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 7:25, Reply)
woof!
This video fills a hole in my soul that I didn't know existed. shutdown the intertubes, it's purpose has been served.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 11:20, Reply)
You're not allowed to do lifts in Salsa
Len would of marked them down for that.
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Crap Little Monkey Can't write, can't spell, no grammEr, no 'shop., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:17,
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Can you name the video game by its cheat code?
I made this!
Just a little quiz thing I made.
You may need to have wasted most of your life to win it.
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Mushroom, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 5:01,
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7/18
Fun, but rather a lot of sequels aren't there?
My favourite code was for New Zealand Story as it was "MOTHERFUCKENKIWIBASTARDS", which got changed to "FLUFFYKIWIS" in later versions
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Thrill_My_Chinchilla Do not drag squirrels into our argument!, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 5:31,
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hahaha
fucking hell, talk about flashback! I remember that too! haha
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:27,
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0/18
I should have got the FUND one really though. The ABACABB cheat should be DULLARD from what I remember.
Best cheat was CJ's Elephant Antics on the C64. Type 'Hairy Arseholes' at the title screen.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 10:44, Reply)
Jammm
was great because it allowed me to get to the flying level quickly.
That and holding F9 to get me a volcano.
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evil_andy Went to Iceland. It rained., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:00,
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LEAVE HIM 'E'S NOT WORTH IT BRUV
Roosters, the well known peacekeepers of the animal world, step into to stop a vicious fight between two rabbits
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Frightguy what the heck's a hexagon, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 2:37,
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Would you mind lubricating that Glass Cock up, before you shove it up our bums?
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Darklord, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 3:35,
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First Person Shooter
Makes the technology used in MW:2 look very 'samey' imho.
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zacherynuk, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:50,
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hahaha!!!
i always shot those first nurses! wicked game!
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op op op op op largely very dangerouse, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 22:54,
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Kids today don't know they are born, with checkpoint and quick saves
In my day if you ran out of lives you had to start the game again from the very beginning. I'd like to see GTA 5 do that.
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magnum, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:05,
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10p for me
But probably spent the same overall.
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Bob the mul Don't look at me that way, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:47,
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Games now are sooo much better than back in the day...
...but at the same time, I have such affection for this stuff. You should have seen a 16 yr old relative of mine when he saw an Amstrad CPC 464 I have. The idea that it would have to load off cassette was hilarious to him.....Even his idea of what cassette is seemed a bit confused.
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I fucking loved my Amstrad CPC 464. They need to resurrect the Dizzy series of games
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 10:19, Reply)
I used to kick arse on this!
I could get to the airport on 1 credit!
Have some of that!
Op Thunderbolt was shit in comparison
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 1:42, Reply)
This kids, is what we did while waiting for pizza back in the day!
There was a very similar game with an uzi mounted on the control pannel with zombies that I've been looking for forever. I remember zombie fish attacking you in the elevator for some reason. It was awesome.
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hanke, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 6:41,
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wasnt this a compo entry a couple of weeks ago?
surely this has been thieved from here!
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:03, Reply)
I'm sure that's common enough to have been done by numerous people
Teddy Sheringham and Gazza, that must have been 10 years ago at least.
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Bela Lugosi's Dad Christmas, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:12,
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true
i just remember it from a couple of weeks ago in the censorship challenge
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:17, Reply)
And you'd be right
It's from Euro 96.
If memory serves it was a re-enactment of a dentist's chair-based boozing experience.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:21, Reply)
Aye,
about half of the team were alcoholics then... Ah the good ole days.
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Tu9 01100011011101010110111001110100, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:22,
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The controversial airport level from Modern Warfare 2
NSFW
Bloody Hell. NSFW
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Roland E O'Dorant R Tape loading error, 0:1, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:41,
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Sick as it seems...
... there's a company dedicated to making V-Tech games. The vile thing is, these games are marketed to children. CHILDREN for God's sake.
www.vtechuk.com/
*weeps*
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Guy Incognito "DY-NO-MITE! DY-NO-MITE!", Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:18,
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Bindun
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Columbine_Massacre_RPG!
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the wub that lies beyond, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:20,
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All of the build up hype for this game has saddened me greatly...
All of the videos showing gameplay are done on the Xbox.
I've heard that they wont have any dedicated servers for the PC version.
Seems to me that everyone's giving up on PC gaming in favour of more casual gamers... Dammit, I refuse to play an FPS on a console...
Having said that, MW:2 looks frigging awesome.
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Tu9 01100011011101010110111001110100, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:53,
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Wait, console gaming is casual?
I'd've thought spending quite a bit of money on a console and then plenty on overpriced disks isn't exactly casual.
But hey, I'm a cheapskate.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:13, Reply)
It's very cheap when you're 13 and your parents buy your games.
Which is what most of the console community tends to be. It's also why it's such a lucrative market.
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Tu9 01100011011101010110111001110100, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:20,
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Yeah.
It won't have dedicated servers for PC and multiplayer will be limited to 9v9, that's if you can find someone with a connection and PC good enough to host a 9v9 game - anyone who's ever tried to play a game of L4D that's hosted on someone else's PC rather than a dedicated server will know the problem here... pings of 300+ anyone?
On top of that if the player hosting disconnects the game pauses for 5 seconds to connect to one of the other players, so you'd better hope they have a good connection and PC too else you're likely to get chain reactions of everyone becoming the host and quitting.
On top of that, on the 'ranked' servers (the ones that progress you through the multiplayer rankings), it's impossible to kick players because Infinity Ward says they aim to eliminate cheaters from the game altogether - which everyone knows is impossible. So if you have someone shooting people through walls and speeding around like a bullet, then you have to go find somewhere else to play.
On top of that, there is no console so you can't tweak anything about the game - apparently this includes many of the binding functions that people use in FPSes.
Infinity Ward have basically turned round and fucked the community their games started on in the arse, royally. It's a pretty big fucking shame.
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Mushroom, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:21,
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Fuck it, United Offensive was the best one anyway.
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Kamikaze Stoat balanced for lean, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 0:43,
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Huge levels of piracy on PC
is one of the main reasons publishers/devs are focusing on consoles.
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Jay, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 11:01,
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I find the ping bots are killing online gaming anyways
If you;ve ever been palying on online game, kicking ass and having a little kid whine and threaten you then suddenly find your ping topping out at over 500. That's the kid using a poing bot to dos you.
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Crap Little Monkey Can't write, can't spell, no grammEr, no 'shop., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 12:23,
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fuck me!
what on earth is the reasoning behind that?!
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HappyToast sorted on, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:57,
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AWESOMENESS
And probably a load of hype and buzz about a game pre-release.
Plus they're marketing to xboxers, who like killing stuff. Especially when it can't fight back.
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Tu9 01100011011101010110111001110100, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:59,
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It's supposedly to "evoke the atrocities of terrorism"
I can see where they're coming from, but it goes too far for me.
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the wub that lies beyond, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:23,
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awwww
but you'd gladly play as an SAS solider and kill forrins though wouldn't you?
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:48,
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The side isn't the issue,
it's 'shooting people who're shooting you' vs. 'shooting unarmed people'.
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Kamikaze Stoat balanced for lean, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 0:41,
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Having played the abomination that is Prototype
Shooting unarmed people seems tame compared to dicing civilians into itty bits and devouring their very flesh, or ploughing their heads into the ground and riding their blood soaked corpse down the street whilst it scrapes along the tarmac at 50mph.
Having said that, there was a certain chill down my spine after watching the clip above.
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lazygamer losing weight by shitting profusely (22lbs so far), Sun 8 Nov 2009, 0:43,
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GTA series seems to be doing pretty well out of it, or at least offering people the chance to
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Well that's the point
In GTA you can, but you don't have to. Here it seems to be the entire objective of the level.
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evil_andy Went to Iceland. It rained., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:24,
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In this video it's the whole point
because the video is made to show the 'TERRIBLE SCENES ON VIOLENCE'. I'd imagine that it's about 2.5 minutes of gameplay out of at least several hours. It also seems that killing innocent people is a means of getting the armed forces to the airport so that they can get into a proper fight.
I'm not condoning this killing of innocent people in games, but you have to remember that it will be a single tiny strand in a rather large, complicated storyarch.
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Tu9 01100011011101010110111001110100, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:51,
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Must... not... click...
I know what the premise of the level is, but I want to wait til I play it to see how bad it gets. I'm a total pussy, I got a bit teary and had to go for a nice walk after the nuclear death bit in CoD4...
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Davydd Grimm has gone all WITTR-ish, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:06,
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This is fucking disgusting
when you mount an attack like that you should split up into teams that each have a pre-planned and rehearsed route and then act simultaneously, this way you can act before they have time to react.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:07, Reply)
I wish I could click ' I like this ' for this post.
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Kingdom Oblivion Had a weird dream at, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:11,
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that looks pretty sweet
now if only someone would write a game that combines that, the gameplay from that japanese rape game and a sandbox type thing like GTA and we'd have a game concept i came up with years ago.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:09, Reply)
The amount of people bitching about that is unreal!
We all know that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Why on fucking earth is it okay to play as an an american special force solider going around shooting forrins and slitting their throats before they even notice you're there and not this?
Pots and kettles, anyone who will play the other but not this, is a hypocrite, simple as that!
DIE INFIDELS!!
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:47,
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You're joking, right?
And all this "one man's terrorist" bit is bollocks. If you operate by inflicting terror in a [civilian] population then you are a terrorist.
Well, that's in my head, at least, so to me you can have both a freedom fighter and a terrorist, but just 'cos they're a freedom fighter doesn't make them any less of a cunt.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:49, Reply)
How on earth is it bollocks?
Just because some group gets labelled as a terrorist organisation by a particular government doesn't mean they are. You say terrorists create terror? I say no they fucking don't, the media creates the terror, telling everyone that they are unsafe and have to keep on alert for suspicious behaviour/packages.
All that bollocks about Anthrax! That scared the shite out me at the time as I was going through a rough patch as it was. Why did they suddenly go quiet on the subject? Because they traced a load of it back to some American lab! Who's the terrorist exactly? And that's my whole point. I've been freaked out more by news paper front pages than any "terrorist". We've been told that terrorists look a cetain way, so if you get anyone from the middle east and put him in front of the average dumb as shit English tard, they instantly label them as a terrorist. Just watch how people behave on a tube train when someone wearing a Burkah sits next to them.
You have to look from their prespective, as narrow minded and odd as it might seem to us, that's the whole fecking point. There are countless games where you play "allied" forces and have to brutally kill many innocent people, and yes, people fighting for the other side can still be innocent!
All is fair in love and war.
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:09,
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*breathes*
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:11,
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As I advised someone earlier
have a biscuit and a mug of warm milk.
In fact, earlier today and yesterday and the day before I had a terrible "eurgh" about myself, headache, coughing, the lot; then a few hours ago I had a mug of warm milk and a couple ibuprofen, since then it's all but disappeared.
Who wants to help me conduct experiments into the medicinal applications of warm milk to determine whether it had any effect other than, "Mmm, warm milk."?
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Ah, but in the games they're armed
in this case you're attempting to attack and kill unarmed civilians as your objective.
However, even though I may dither around shooting aliens in Halo 3 or such, doesn't mean I actually want to do it. Also, somewhat on your side with this point, a lot of the 'armed' types in the other games would actually be conscripts; which is a little... awkward.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:29, Reply)
I might be wrong,
but that makes Nelson Mandela a c**t. Jailed for terrorism. It makes the Russian partisans a bunch of wankers. The French resistance? Tossers! I don't follow your logic on this one (i usually do).
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sundae_girl_2004 was a merchant of death, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:09,
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who's to say terrorists are bad, necessarily? Bad only for those they affect, maybe?
This goes for firkin up there, too.
A terrorist is someone who operates by using terror as the means to their end. That's just a definition of it. As for firkin's saying governments say someone's a terrorist, etc. well... then maybe the people they're accusing aren't actually terrorists. What I was saying is that one man's terrorist *is* another man's terrorist regardless of whether or not they're a freedom fighter also.
Maybe it's best to disregard that final wanker comment, though in most people's opinions those that aim to cause terror amongst a civilian population are generally wankers.
Also, I didn't say terrorists create terror, I said they use it. If everyone just ignored them in their attempts to create, and thus be able to utilise it, then they'd fail horribly at their aim.
So to actually answer in a coherant manner, Mandela may have been jailed for terrorism, but that doesn't make him a terrorist; though he could well have been a freedom fighter. I just consider "freedom fighter" and "terrorist" to be more akin to apples and oranges than two sides of the same coin... if you get me.
(As for the French Revolutionaries, well... yes, they were terrorists, at least during the Reign of Terror.)
Wow, I'm shit at describing things today.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:22, Reply)
Im sorry, I really don't get your point!
Terror as a weapon is as old as history itself. Vlad the Impaler used it: surrender in advance, or when we win, you sit on a pole. Jesus used it: do it my way or rot in hell for eternity.
One is reviled, one is loved. But they aren't apples and oranges, they are surely just two men playing on fear to get thier own way.
Did I just really compare Jesus to Dracula? Wow I'm on form tonight :D
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sundae_girl_2004 was a merchant of death, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:51,
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Alexander the Great
Told Tyre to surrender. Tyre, hardly knowing who he was, told him to fuck off. Once he won the battle he crucified the inhabitants of the town along the causeway leading to it. Funnily enough everyone else in the region surrendered pretty soon.
I'm having a hard time describing it, but to say that, okay, I'm Jewish. I have issues with Israeli governments, but also support the concept of the intended state. The Irgun may be viewed, through my Jew example as well, as freedom fighters, fighting for freedom from quite a large amount of anti-semitism and pogroms wherever Jews had settled, but the methods they used were terrorism and they were terrorists (and as such I think the Irgun were wankers). So although they may (under different circumstances) have been my freedom fighters they would also be my terrorists. From the 'observer' perspective also I view ETA as a terrorist organisation because they blow up Spanish civilians, whether or not they're freedom fighters is beside this specific point.
Apples and oranges? ...getit?
(The ambiguity comes down to do the oppressed or the minority have any other choice than terrorism really? The Tamil Tigers had the infrastructure to parttake in open warfare, yet they chose to target civilians, so they're right bastards, but Hamas don't really have any other option than terrorism, if they went for only military targets they wouldn't make a dent and wouldn't achieve their aim. Essentially this has been one big conversation of long posts over something that is little more than semantics; I feel dirty for this.)
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 22:00, Reply)
I agree with your last sentence
and call time on the discussion! See you at the next contencious post ;)
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sundae_girl_2004 was a merchant of death, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 22:07,
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I am very disappointed in you...
What would your family think?
At least put it in some warm milk!
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 22:20, Reply)
Just spunk in it
when she isn't looking
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 10:04,
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so you would consider hamas to be terrorists
but not as bad as the LTTE? what about say british bombing of civilian areas in iraq in 2003? there are surely a number of government actions which are terroristic (is that a word?) to all intents and purposes.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 14:08, Reply)
...
what's the point? there's no gameplay, apart from the juvenile shock factor, just looks boring as fuck to play.
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Shiodome has realised numbers in names aren't cool., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:50,
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Story setting
the first level of CoD4 had you shoved into a car, taken to a city square and shot in the head - you didn't have any choice about this, because you were playing the leader of the country that was just being taken over, and the rest of the game revolved around the nature of the coup you'd just 'experienced' first hand.
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Mushroom, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:49,
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Interesting
for those of you that didn't skip to the end your comrades kill you to incite war or something.
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hanke, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:04,
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Yes
Maybe after all the hype, there's only one short level in MW2, and you die at the end of it anyway.
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Roland E O'Dorant R Tape loading error, 0:1, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:24,
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Apparently the single player mode is criminally short anyway.
and they've raped the multiplayer for the PC, so I'm not sure if I'm going to buy it at all - certainly not while it's Ł40.
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Mushroom, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:37,
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£26 in Sainsburys on launch day.
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lazygamer losing weight by shitting profusely (22lbs so far), Sat 7 Nov 2009, 22:55,
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If I hadn't ordered the 250Gb Elite bundle with it
I'd be there first thing. Now I have to wait for Parcel Force :(
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lazygamer losing weight by shitting profusely (22lbs so far), Sun 8 Nov 2009, 0:05,
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It sounds like
they're meant to be pretending to be American in order to start the war. Hence the title 'No Russian', as in "Don't speak Russian or they'll know we're really Russian!" Oh, and they're shooting up a Russian airport, too, by the looks of it.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:33, Reply)
hahahah!!!!
FRICKIN AWESOME! Just a shame it wasnt the school holidays...
(this is a joke right? if not FUCK!)
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op op op op op largely very dangerouse, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 22:57,
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"I AM A DAILY MAIL READER AND I'M OUTRAGED BY THIS
ALTHOUGH THANKS TO BROWN'S RECESSION I AM OBLIGED TO SAY THIS GAME WILL BE Ł26 AT SAINSBURYS."
Indigenous White Middle Class Person
Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:06, Reply)
I too am outraged.
There's only like six character models in those crowds.
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Kamikaze Stoat balanced for lean, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 0:54,
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You get shot at the end of this level so its ok
its a good game, singleplayer is a bit short though
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:45, Reply)
bah, it's been removed,
i should have downloaded the vid
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weaver. Free Psychochomp when you spend £50!, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:05,
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I watched the first bit...
the first bit where you go "oh, shit!". It looked pretty shocking, but challenging morally. Let's wait until the game comes out before we form an opinion.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 1:00, Reply)
This is just shock factor marketing
All the outrage this generates with sell millions of units.
Its pretty fucked up.
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Lord Turkey Boy will not be eaten this Christmas, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 1:27,
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This is disgraceful.
Not a SINGLE ONE of those passengers is carrying any hand luggage. How are supposed to be believe this is real??
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United Turnips, Mon 9 Nov 2009, 14:11,
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My friend Danny - Legend
I made this!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEB8652KuGo
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SiX hermione granger's sex ed teacher, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:05,
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Mr Fry just posted this
so I guess it's been here before, but the Glasscockulator said no.
Surely its not real?
The Freedom Tray. For all true Americans.
Don't spill your fries like a goddam commie.
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Mrs Liveinabin is the only person left who uses indicators, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:03,
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*orders five*
I'm sick of spilling my food like a goddam pinko liberal!
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Damoclaus is putting you all on the naughty list!, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:18,
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Order two, and they'll "give you one" free.
Now that IS good value.
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giant_squid, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:54,
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my goodness, it's my b3ta-day!
6 years. Where did they go?
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giant_squid, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:55,
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They went thataway>>>>>>>>>>
Happy candle day, you non-million dollar winning person!
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sundae_girl_2004 was a merchant of death, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:59,
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I know it's wrong but
when she says TROOOOL! TROOOOL! it makes my heart melt with happy.
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alienheat, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:32,
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Boxxy DEFEATS
strange ferret freak girl.
Boxxy is the Quintessence.
strange ferret freak girl is not worthy to share her illuminations.
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alienheat, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:00,
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Started promisingly with "So you guys, I got a ferret," in the southern american accent, but then trailed off.
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Mu Sticks™, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:05,
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She didn't commit to
the insanity. The face is too impassive, the tone to mono.
She is just a girl with a ferret. That is all she will ever be, until the ferret eats her.
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alienheat, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:07,
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So I decided to drive to africa for charity
I made this!
A few weeks ago a friend introduced me to this society. And never before have I ever taken to a challenge like this one.
This is the Africa Rally:
“Massive, ridiculously hot, covered in deserts and some of the wildest jungles in the world; Africa calls The Adventurists like a siren in the night. Come hither and do thyself a mischief, she says.
So really we only had one solution, to make the turn south and head into the fray in search of the sort of moments to tell our grandchildren about over and over again until they fear coming to visit us in our old people's home. Thus the Adventurists' Africa Rally was born.
They said the cars would never make it, they said the roads in monsoon season were impassable; they said this was the most ridiculous and stupid idea they'd ever heard of. But the twenty-eight brave teams that made it to Cameroon in the pioneering 2008 Africa Rally proved them wrong, and in the process of doing so raised vast amounts of cash for charity.”
The 2009 rally is happening this Christmas. I was offered a team position but, fortunately, I have sense to realise that wandering into the Sahara desert unprepared is suicide.
But.
I found the concept of driving a 1 litre left hand drive banger through jungle and desert into Camaroon compelling, especially after watching the endeavours of others.
So.
I’m going to try in Christmas 2010.
The first step is getting on the official books; the next step is to get a suitable car and start the marketing machine. Oh, and plan a route.
I’ve started a blog which I have vowed to only update with interesting news over the year.
Any goons in the Reading or London area that want to get in touch, help out, travel with or stand and laugh and point out the numerous comical ways I will die please feel free to contact me.
I hope to bring you some small parcels of entertainment in the coming year.
niT
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:47, Reply)
You are officially too organised
Sounds pretty awesome though, good job
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The Coast Of Yemen, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:00,
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A mate of mine did this last year
Not sure if it was that exact same one, but him and a group of his mates drove a knackered old 5 series Beemer half way down the west coast.
Sounded like he had an amazing time.
Make sure someone in your car knows at least basic mechanic skills though...
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:06, Reply)
For suitable cars
I would suggest something pre ECU. That way if anything breaks down, you only have to get the mechanics to work again. With an ECU, you could be stranded because the damned computer refuses to recognise you've topped up the bleedin radiator or something stupid like that!
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DavyBoyInGravyJoy Grey Goose Vodka on Ice, nothing finer, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:49,
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good point well made
I'm aiming for a polo or metro. simple and robust (well the polo anyway)
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:04, Reply)
I know I'm a girl and all that,
but I'd recommend a car with a Rally pedigree. NOT a Metro- the suspension simply won't be up to it and is un-mendable roadside. Use KISS principals (Keep It Simple Stupid).
So coil/leaf suspension. Chain driven timing gear. Proven chassis design. Rear wheel drive. Parts to 'beef' it up available on ebay.
My choice on that criteria?
Probably a Mk 2 Ford Escort 1600.
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sundae_girl_2004 was a merchant of death, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:28,
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The other way of lookng at it
is to get a Toyota, as they're the most popular manufacturer in Africa, and therefore you might have half a chance of finding spares if absolutely necessary.
The alternative of buying something so simple that you only need a hammer to fix it is a bit more 'romantic' perhaps, but will lead to more grief in the long run.
In fairness though - mkII Escorts are very fun to drive - I was lucky enough to get given a Rally experience at Silverstone for my birthday a few years back in a MkII Cosworth with the solid trans-axle, dog box and fly off handbrake.
Mmm... powersilding on dust...
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:26, Reply)
Good point about the Toyota
but were it me embarking on this project, the Ford would win out because of design simplicty. If you break a coil spring on a MacPherson strut, so what? You carry on with one side an inch lower. I'd get on Ebay and 'bullet proof' the car, which is possible due to rally/racing heritage that the Jap cars lack. Sump guard, roll cage, multi-leaf rear springs...
Does it show i grew up in a household of men and went on to work in the motor industry?
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sundae_girl_2004 was a merchant of death, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:20,
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I dislike metro suspension
as it always leaked for me and I'd end up driving around with a car two inches off the ground. Plus the sump / exhaust area always got clipped on speedbumps.
The polo has a decent guard that can be beefed up, and is fairly alright to get into bits and back together again.
I'd love to take an escort, but am limited to a 1 litre engine.
If you know where I can get a left hand drive, rear drive simple but not too simple car with a good chassis please let me know.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:54, Reply)
A one litre engine!
across Africa? Sorry I don't know one i could recommend to get around the Watford Ring Road. Escorts did come with a 950 cc IIRC. But they won't get you out of African mud. They wouldn't get you out a rice pudding, so sorry; me stumped.
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sundae_girl_2004 was a merchant of death, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 0:59,
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I know
that is the point of the challenge really, if you do make it to Camaroon you will have had an epic journey. If you fail, well the odds were against you.
Check out some of the videos on the adventurist site, there are some truely heroic stories there.
In other news I'm going to 'borrow' an electric winch rated for a few tons and a block and tackle (wahey). If I get stuck in the mud I'll hook on to a passing sand dune or some such.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 9:32, Reply)
I loved that track
used to race there in my yoof. Did the rally, karting and track. Damn good fun when your 16
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:56, Reply)
my uni have developed a great solar car
it might be worth a chat with them do you want more details?
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op op op op op largely very dangerouse, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:04,
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sounds interesting
would they like to give it a test run through the Sahara?
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:51, Reply)
Zouch - Demolition
I made this!
A track I made using legal samples in 2004 with reversed videos of various demolitions.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:44, Reply)
Lily Allen has f**k all on us weegies!!
GLSGW
(oh yea and it's a wee bit NSFW)
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prodigy69 Errapolis, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:01,
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ha. quaity man.
have you heard any non-novelty glasgow hip hop? www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIom06ha-cg&feature=related
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:09, Reply)
I've heard of Loki before but there's better out there :)
Kryptic, D.J.Science, Steg G,
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prodigy69 Errapolis, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:19,
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steg g?
personally i don't reckon he's nearly as good as the younger crowd. i guess with glasgow who you rate might depend on who you know in the scene. the II tone committee are the best i've heard out of glasgow.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:27, Reply)
yea not big on Glasga hiphop, but that's all I know about ^ :)
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prodigy69 Errapolis, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:33,
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it's all about the edinburgh hip hop anyway man ; )
www.blacklanternmusic.com/oneep.php?subid=4&partid=1
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:39, Reply)
cheers to you too sir.
i think i'm close to spamming with the way i'm taking every opportunity to add a cheeky link. the other guys are roaming the internet trying to embiggen us up but i just hang around here all day.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:59, Reply)
Class
Reminds me of this gem
www.youtube.com/watch?v=utsHE5xWges
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:14,
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haha
christ, they don't often venture into merchant city :-s
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:18,
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hahaha fuckin' 'ell :D
special k and angel
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prodigy69 Errapolis, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:25,
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Braw!
I stayed on Buchanan St when I was there.
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Bela Lugosi's Dad Christmas, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:50,
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I love it...
but it's such shit audio and video quality that it spoils it
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 1:05, Reply)
Wasn't going to post this
Vid contains pretty nasty vid of a hatchery, so don't watch if you don't want to see chicks being ground up etc.
I'm posting in response to some comments below, because I think there are much bigger things to worry about than animal testing, though animal testing should be monitored and put through strict ethical committees, and avoided if possible.
Basically being cunts to animals is pretty much inescapable living in this country (or any commercialised country). Even being a veggy you can't escape the cruelty inflicted on animals in your name.
For the sake of balance here is a fluffier version of the vid in the main link
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkuohLV2u0k
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:58,
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jeesus,
it is frightening to see this sorta thing going on, but this is the flip-side to the modern convenience-led lifestyle that everyone wants to live.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:06, Reply)
That is fucking grim ...
much like this www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp (dont watch if you were offended by the vid above) - I'm no veggie btw (hell no, I like my meat)
In the food industry there is no excuse for animal cruelty if it's an excuse for being 'cost effective'
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:18, Reply)
Bottom line is
this is the only way everybody can afford meat and eggs etc on a daily basis. My argument is eat more expensive better quality meat/milk/eggs etc on a less regular basis.
Even then most food products contain palm oil, huge areas of rainforest are destroyed daily for these mono culture GM crops.
Like I say, no escape but attempting balance is a good thing.
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:24,
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Exactly!
My dad told me once he got chicken twice a year if he was lucky when he was a kid. Once at Christmas and once at Easter. I eat chicken nearly every day.
I've tried eating more expensive meats less often but it's so difficult.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:30, Reply)
i agree
The vegan paradox is that they don't want to harm animals yet if we were all vegans, many species of animal would be eradicated. I don't see anyone wanting to keep a field of cows if nobody ate them.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:40, Reply)
Or we'd have great hordes of them
migrating to Kent for warmer climes.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:29, Reply)
the meat ration in ww2 was pretty small
4oz of bacon and a similar amount of meat i think and one egg a week. britain had a fairly low meat diet even before the war.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:43, Reply)
At at that point in history
apart from the offchance of bomb landing on your head, the country was never healthier!
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:53,
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Thanks
for posting up a video of animals being minced to death,
you've really made my day...
: /
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Darklord, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:19,
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:-(
I put a warning in, I don't like shoving this stuff down people throat :-(
I'll only post fluffy things for a few weeks now.
For now have some www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.snootypaws.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/baby-hedgehog-3.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.snootypaws.com.au/blog/index.php/super-cute-baby-hedgehog-pictures/&h=359&w=480&sz=38&tbnid=4BPZHcS2ExTvrM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcute%2Bbaby%2Bhedgehog&usg=__7VXwHPvLRvGn4FdjifFkCuvyzxA=&ei=45_1SpTXKM7G4QbDrd3pAw&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&ved=0CAcQ9QEwAA
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:28,
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Maybe try adding a NSFW tag?
It's slightly a shock video, especially if you are an animal lover, don't you think?
Maybe you should read the FAQ?
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Darklord, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:10,
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gah that grinding machine will live with me
those poor chicks. should be laws agains that sort of thing.
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Darth Winston Rabbit former dances with rabbits, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:19,
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It makes you realise how much cruelty and harm occurs to animals
even if you don't kill them for their meat. It really hate when veggies claim to be so because they think it's cruel, but still eat eggs and drink milk, etc.
But unless we all start eating grain and drinking water there's not much that can be done I guess.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:26, Reply)
um. veganism?
there's more choices of food available than meat or grain. not that i'm even veggie anymore(a traitor to the cause).
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:29, Reply)
I was exaggerating for brevity.
I realise that you can eat more than just grain without consuming animal products.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:32, Reply)
Very! :P
On a veganism side note, my cousin in America went to the doctors for a cholesterol test (he's a vegan btw), and obviously his levels came back very low. The doctor seemed surprised at how low it was and asked him about his diet. He explained he was a vegan and the doctor replied,
"What's that?"
Un-frikkin-believable.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:48, Reply)
blimey.
i'm not that bothered about the ickle animals but the impending lack of oil and the changing of the climate makes me think that maybe global veganism is a good option. it would cut our co2 emissions by loads (a third maybe? i'm not going to confidently quote stats i can't rightly recall)
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:55, Reply)
How would it cut our CO2 emissions?
(I'm curious, not being argumentative)
I read about some scientists claiming that if everyone became vegetarian, or vegan, then we'd end up farting more and contributing more methane the the atmosphere. They were probably working for Bernard Matthews or something though.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:16, Reply)
I'm a vegan...
...and I pump less now then I ever did when I ate meaty goodness. Mind you....when I do pump you don't want to be in a 50 mile radius really.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:25, Reply)
mostly the feed,
the petrochemicals and petrol used to grow that and also the petrol used to transport the feed, the petrochemicals and the meat. plus refrigeration or freezing. there's a bit on some of that here. www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/jul/19/climatechange.climatechange there's other stuff i can't remember and don't have time to look up again right now. got to head out. sorry.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:41, Reply)
Ah, no worries! Cheers for following that up!
I was just wondering how different the CO2 production would be for a vegan diet. You wouldn't have to transport feed anymore, but surely a similar amount of energy would be required to transport human 'feed'. And you'd have to prepare that food for human consumption whereas you'd just feed it as it was to the animals. Also, this fruit and veg will still need refrigeration.
Then there is the environmental issues with pesticides and such, and furthermore, we'd probably just have to import vast quantities of vegetables from overseas because we can't grow stuff all year round here, whereas farm animals can thrive well in the UK climate.
Anyway...I'm in favour of cutting meat and animal produce in your diet. It would reduce the strain on current animal production, be better for the animal's welfare, and the meat would be of better quality. Ideally I'd like to produce all my own food myself on my own farm...ah...a man can dream...
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:04, Reply)
Stuff like this breaks my head
I know it'll upset me if I watch it, but that fact compels me to watch it. Is that because I don't want to remain ignorant of something potentially important just because it'll upset me? That's for idiots - If yes then I should give in and watch it and learn how to make the world better for fluff. Or would I just be using that as an excuse to give in to the part of me that is fascinated by gore? Don't have a massive problem with accidents etc. but avoidable harm / inflicted pain is something bit different and I feel very ghoulish about possibly wanting to see it because zomg lolz chick got minced.
Hmm, ultimately I usually decide I should be aware of what's happening and that's more important in spite of anything else.
*Edit* oh but I see no reason not to have posted it. Quite the opposite really. Nice one.
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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:03,
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I'm no expert on these things
But I have experimented on animal tissues, and I have studied in an institution that experiments on a wide variety of animals for research purposes.
I wasn't going to comment on the first vid, even with Toasty having the temerity to write "bollocks" and then come out with absolute classic ill-informed animal rights activist polemical rubbish. (No offense HT, but you're wrong).
Animal testing in Britain is extraordinarily rigorously regulated. If your research proposal isn't ensuring that facts are checked or new, important, information is gathered -you aren't using animals.
In research institutions animals must be fed well, kept warm, kept from becoming inbred and euthanised when in significantly in pain or diseased.
Farmers are under no such obligations.
And don't think scientists are "addicted" to animal research. Live enclosures are mind-blowingly expensive to maintain, animal usage is being reduced wherever possible (I admit there are still plenty of places that are blasé about animal welfare in science, but they ain't in major European countries).
It's an emotive issue, but I'm with you, industrial meat and egg production is rarely done with any concern for the animals involved.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:01, Reply)
^This
Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act 1986 is one of the strictist and arguably one of the most strongly enforced pieces of legislation in the country.
It's actually a great deal better for the research if the animals are healthy, unstressed and generally enjoying life.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 18:18, Reply)
Where's the "I like this!" button
because I like this.
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the wub that lies beyond, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:38,
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Mmmm chicken
I seem to be one of the few people that really doesn't actually care about this.
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Jonnee generic comment, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 19:06,
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Whether you care or not is completely irrelevant.
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:45,
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i saw this a while back its frightening indeed
:(
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op op op op op largely very dangerouse, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 23:06,
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Horrible...
But the comment at the end about having a vegan diet? No. Just be aware of where your food comes from.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 1:11, Reply)
ffs
The americans is starving. If they don't make their meats and eggs this way, they will all die from malnutrition. Is easy to sit there in fancy internet land and make judgements, but you haven't seen the situation on the ground man. You middle class twunts.
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 4:11, Reply)
Meat and eggs are not an essential part of a healthy diet
If things are as bad as you are implying, people need to be eating pulses, grains, fruit and veg. They are cheaper and more efficient to produce.
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sun 8 Nov 2009, 13:42,
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Poor Poor Ratty
Quite interesting.... but quite hilarious first clip or a rat in a harness...
Poor thing
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 14:56, Reply)
"When their spinal cords were severed, they lost control of their hind legs"
No fucking way !!
Visisection \ medical science with the use of animals - I still can't
make up my mind tbh whether I'm for or against it now ...
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:08, Reply)
As much as I hate to say
animal work is an essential part of science. Without that, no drugs, no treatments, no progress. It's not all bad though, there are strict guidelines on animal welfare etc, it's not like they are just chucking these things at undergrads.
More concerning is methods used in mass scale farming. Some of the stuff happening there is far more disturbing than even the most macabre science experiments.
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:19,
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bollocks
while animal testing has got us a huge way the need for it now is almost gone with digital tests, virtual hearts and so forth being far more reliable than seeing what Chemical X does to the heart of a species way too far from human for it to be relevent.
The majority of animal testing is done because it is still an old school network of supplying farmed animals (like the guinea pig farmer that had the grans body stolen from her grave - no, I do not in any way advocate such ridiculous stunts)
There is no such thing as nice animal testing, and the results are not conclusive without human trials.
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HappyToast sorted on, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:28,
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while animal testing has got us a huge way the need for it now is almost gone with digital tests, virtual hearts and so forth being far more reliable than seeing what Chemical X does to the heart of a species way too far from human for it to be relevent.
I wants evidence!
There are many aspects of ratty physiology which are similar to ours, and so they test the drug on animals, see if anything like "the rat's head exploded" happens and if not then they go and test it on people.
The mother of a friend of mine, who works in the making of medicines and the resultant animal testing, said that if you disagree with animal testing then just don't use the medicines that had it involved in their production. If this actually works and there's no big problem without animal testing, then hey, we can all adopt it.
It am up to you!
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:40, Reply)
I wouldn't want a pig to die so I could have its heart
I don't think I'm more important than an another animal in the big scheme of things
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HappyToast sorted on, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:42,
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really?
it's your first point rather than your second point that i'm asking about.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:49, Reply)
You're asking about?
...aaargh, identity crisis! I have the sniffles, my head is painy, you're confusing me.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:52, Reply)
i was asking happytoast about dying rather than kill a pig.
i would shag then kill a pig with a brick if it would keep me alive.
(who am i kidding? i'd shag a pig right now and i'm fit as a fiddle)
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:56, Reply)
You build a dozen roads and do they call you Banana the Road Builder? No.
You save a hundred orphans and do they call you Banana the Orphan Saver? No.
But you shag one sheep...
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:58, Reply)
Tbh, in the big scheme of things nothing has any importance whatsoever.
It's one of the most natural things for any species to have a feeling of greater importance than another. It's just part of the self preservation instinct. Not to sound arrogant, any unnecessary death of any animal should be avoided. But I'd rather use a sense of natural perspective than a universal one.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:58, Reply)
It's one of the most natural things...
everything we do is natural. incest and child murder is natural.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:00, Reply)
Yeah I realise that.
But the point about the "big scheme of things" bothers me. All the things you listed don't actually matter in the "big scheme of things" so it's a daft point.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:02, Reply)
i agree with you about the big scheme.
i just have to question any use of the word natural in that way. cos as you say it's natural for some folk to think their better than a monkey. but its also natural to think that you're of equal value to a monkey. everything we do is natural. so using the word natural to prop up your point is a bit daft.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:13, Reply)
It's a bit of a push to say it's natural for some people to think they are equal to a monkey.
I'd say that more goes under the nature vs nurture argument :p
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:19, Reply)
nah. either everything that happens in nature is natural
or you need to more clearly define what you mean by natural. often people seem to use it to describe their cultural norms. often so they can say some other behaviour is unnatural. like the gays back in the day. did you mean a generalisable natural or a specific to you natural?
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:24, Reply)
I was specific
I was talking about a self preservation instict. I don't think I can get more specific than that. It's a bit different than someone's nurtured view of pig equality.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:26, Reply)
it wasn't you over all point i was disputing.
just the suitablity of the word natural within your point. are you using natural as a synonym for instinctive? because that would mean that culture isn't natural and then i could see why you're saying that pig lovers are unnatural.
or maybe you're saying that anthropocentrism is more natural than ecocentrism? i can't see how you could say that one cultural construct is more natural than another cultural construct.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:38, Reply)
Seriously, this is getting dull.
I don't have any secret agenda behind pushing ideals of nature. Maybe I didn't word my initial comment too well, but you don't seem like a stupid person, surely you can see what I was getting at. Just because a person says something doesn't mean they have to back up everything associated along with it. Forget I ever used to word nature. Please go and rewrite my other post in your mind to be a more acceptable use of the english language.
Go bother that other person who made the comment about grain.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:47, Reply)
How odd...
You don't think you can bring more to this world than a pig?
Fair dos! Though tbh, I'd rather eat a bacon sarnie than you!
Edit: Oh and in the grand scheme of things, you're already dead so why give a shit about a pig? Unless you're wanting some kind of karma points for some kind of judgement day.
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 20:52,
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Nice animal testing
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFQ5kUHPkY
It isn't all medical. And if computer modelling can be used it should. Ethics committees are becoming much tighter, but it simply isn't at the stage where an all out cease of animal testing is viable.
Of course you need human trials, but to get to that stage takes a long time. And if people can eat animals why not use a far smaller number to advance knowledge and treatment? If you had a spinal injury, wouldn't you want the ability to walk again? Only way it will happen is with research such as the link posted above.
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:41,
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that's tremendous.
how happiness isn't just what you have but what you have in comparison to others.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:54, Reply)
Cynic
:-p
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:04,
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oh it makes me optomistic for an egalitarian future.
if you look at places that are happy, they're often places with a smaller gap between the top and bottom economic groups. be that norway or botswana. it's as important to our happiness to share as it is to accrue. i see that a really hopeful sign.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:17, Reply)
Not the only way...
...there's alot of work ongoing using cultured human cell lines to investigate the possibility of neurons bridging the glial scar (thing which stops axons reforming in the central nervous system). There are, IMO, some very viable alternatives. That's another 2p's worth. That's 4p I've spent on this discussion now!
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:10, Reply)
Seventh said it better than me so
www.b3ta.com/links/390410
I'm all for the alternatives mind, but can't imagine we will ever totally remove the animals from testing
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Hellzapoppin You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot., Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:16,
Reply)
While I agree that alternative testing methods
have come a long way, we are in NO way ready to jump straight from computer models / isolated tissue tests to shoving a drug into a human.
You have your drug, you've run the computer tests [which are only accurate to the best of our current knowledge, HOW can it model what a brand new drug would do?] you've tested it on live tissue samples, and it does what it's supposed to. great!
So you put it into your rat test subject. OH NOES! massive multiple organ failure. a few dead rats. this is sad. whoops. back to the drawing board!
On the other hand, you could put it into a human test subject. OH NOES! massive organ failure!
but hey, at least no RATS are dead!
cos humans are cheap and disposable, right? hey, there's loads of baby girls being dumped in China, let's buy them and use them as test subjects! LOADS better!
"no animals were harmed in the making of this life-saving drug that has saved millions."
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Seventh takes the LER out of FLATTERY, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:55,
Reply)
You should go have a biscuit
and a mug of warm milk now.
That's my medical advice; milk tested on hedgehogs.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:57, Reply)
hehe.
Cheers. I shall open up this pack of ginger nuts and have a nice sit down.
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Seventh takes the LER out of FLATTERY, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:59,
Reply)
i hadn't thought of that.
do you reckon there's a market for chinese girl meat?
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:57, Reply)
If a "higher intelligence" came down and started killing thousands of humans in lab tests in a search for a new hayfever tablet
would that be fine then?
I apologise for being a communist hippy, but I just don't want to stamp on anything if I can help it, if I'm struck down by a terminal disease, so be it.
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HappyToast sorted on, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:15,
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it's fine
if YOU would choose not to take the drugs or have the surgery that animal research has provided. That's very noble of you.
but you seem to want to stop all research, thus condemning EVERYONE who has those problems to die along with you. I don't see how this is fair. Why should millions of people die because a few people place animals' lives above humans'?
Would you also choose to let your son or daughter die slowly and suffering, for the sake of some animals? Could you really sit there and watch them cry in pain and tell them that it's okay, the rats aren't suffering at the hands of cruel scientists? And okay, you might choose to do that, it's your kid, that's your choice. But would you then please explain to MY child why SHE has to die as well as yours?
Forgive me, but i place a higher value on easing human suffering. And if it comes at the cost of experimenting as humanely and ethically as possible on lab animals, then so be it. Apologies if that's a distasteful idea to anyone.
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Seventh takes the LER out of FLATTERY, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:31,
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I apologise
I was speaking hypothetically, I didn't realise the decisions of the world were made on b3ta's links board and that EVERYONE was reading it ;P
I also said "I" don't want to stamp on things, not "everybody do what I am saying here"
I must remember discussion is a bad thing
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HappyToast sorted on, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:38,
Reply)
hehe
quite obviously, I am speaking hypothetically as well.
I just wanted to inquire how far you would push it.
Sorry if I have offended.
*refluffs*
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Seventh takes the LER out of FLATTERY, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:44,
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Good job there wasn't an overwhelming amount of people like you 100 years ago.
Or healthcare would be in a backwards state today.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:33, Reply)
oh do read what I say more carefully
my comments are about testing now, not decades ago, I didn't realise computer and cell tests were viable 100 years ago
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HappyToast sorted on, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:40,
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We are not at the peak of scientific knowledge.
Treatments scientist are working on with the tools available to them today are comparable to treatments scientists were working on with the tools available to them 100 years ago.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:49, Reply)
you know that rules out most medications for most ailments eh?
do you really not use any medications ever? i met this nice animal rights activist girl and she had just had chemo for breast cancer. it's amazing how the threat of death can change a persons mind eh?
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:47, Reply)
Maybe, but chemo was discovered by serendipity rather than by animal experiments...
...that girl never really had a choice in whether her drug was tested on animals or not, thanks to the law which makes it mandatory to test all human drugs on non human animals first.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:55, Reply)
she had a choice of whether to take the drug or not.
one forced her. and i suspect that post discovery an experiment or two may have been done on some animals to develop chemo. maybe i'm wrong.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:22, Reply)
hahahaha
fucking hell!
Stop smoking granola
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Firkinfedup was right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 21:22,
Reply)
bollocks to you!
It'll be a long time before we can trust our knowledge of the human body enough before we can completly sidestep the process of animal testing.
Typically before any experimentation is undergone, methods are screened so as to see if it is absolutly vital that animal testing is required. Day after day less animals are used where not required. It is unfortuante that there are still many studies which could not be nearly as conclusive without the use of animal testing, but it is progressing.
As a zoologist i've witnessed and been involved in many experiments involving animals. One thing that should be understood is the similarities within the human genome and countless other animals. The simplicity of, say, a fruit fly's genome can be replicated in humans, albiet in a more complex fashion. Same with rats, crabs, mice, etc. And these simplistic models which encode for every function allows us to gain a greater understanding of these processes in humans, especially what makes us (and animals) sick. The only way you can cure a disease is to fully understand it's origins, how it begins, and how it affects those afflcited. Then you can work on prevention.
The more we understand about animals, the more we understand about us and them. Once science progresses to a level which we understand our innerworkings then i do believe we'll have less requirement for such testing. But sometimes it's unavoidable.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:10, Reply)
This
I think it's a either an arrogant or just plain uneducated statement to think that all scenario's could be replicated on a computer. To really think that today's science is so advanced. Too much scifi maybe.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:17, Reply)
I used to sit on the fence like mrmatt...
...until I started working in a place where animal experimentation is the norm. Some of the experiments are a heartbreaking waste. A lot of the surgery is carried out by postgrads with very little training, and the animals are treated as commodities to be used and abused. Makes me very sad. A relatively small amount of funding is going into the 3Rs: replacement, refinement and reduction of animal experiments (not necessarily in that order!), but the likes of cell and tissue culture do seem to be on the increase, which makes me a little more optimistic.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:29, Reply)
it's rare to see animal rights activists turn down medication though eh?
i'm all for a massive reduction in the whole petrol in the eyes thing but from talking to my mate who works in a lab they are not going to get to a point where they can stop it entirely. stagevu.com/video/snmtvsajwukd
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:38, Reply)
True but...
...it's not like anti-vivs really have a choice unless they decide never to take any drugs (and consequently shorten their life expectancy). The way things are at the moment, medicines HAVE to be tested on animals by law. This isn't to say that they wouldn't be any good if they hadn't been tested this way. If there were medicines available which had been tested safely using some other model instead, I would gladly eschew the animal ones. That's my 2p's worth!
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 16:01, Reply)
I find being called a 'fence sitter'
a bit insulting to be fair - if you knew me, you'd find
(probably annoyingly) I've a view on everything I have
sufficient knowledge on. In this case, I probably dont
care enough about the subject to look with sufficient
depth to give a decent opinion on the matter.
A 'fence-sitter' doesn't want to make up their minds for
fear of upsetting one camp (the yays or nays) - trust me,
if I had an opinion, I would have said.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:40, Reply)
Oops.
Sorry mrmatt. I only meant that I used to be unsure either way. No offence intended and apologies for any caused.
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:42, Reply)
No worries mate and kudos to you for apologising :)
When anyone says that it like a red rag to a bull for me :D
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:48, Reply)
tee hee hee.
'mon then. *dances like a sloth- stings like a platypus*
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:03, Reply)
"Right, you mug !!
Aaht-side ya cunt"
I'm sorry, I just seemed to have been possessed by Danny Dyer. ;)
(, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:52, Reply)
Didn't those things start the 'Black Death' ?
And now, these people are spending a ton of money, trying to make them walk!?
Pft...
Weird!
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Darklord, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 15:31,
Reply)
Cruelty to rats aside
aren't they saying here there's some hope of curing paralysis?
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hanke, Sat 7 Nov 2009, 17:41,
Reply)
those scientists are so retarded
making a rat walk on its hind legs. they want to make it ratman or something?
(, Sun 8 Nov 2009, 4:16, Reply)
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