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This is a link post Duck Life 3 - flash game
Train your duck to compete against all other ducks and become the world champion!
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post here be spam

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^ this

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post That

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post the obligatory other
and I've not even looked at the post yet...
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post running 2 for 2

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've trained my duck for much more nefarious reasons.
Hormel's finest
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Considering you're probably the creator, have you fixed it this time?
You had two sequels to get it right and every time my duckling comes close to maxing out, the game has sped up to become unplayable.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Are you the creator?
You have a front page on Kongregate, You don't need to be spamming us shirley.

Incidentally, the game is irritatingly addictive, and I'm not exactly sure why...

P.S: If you stop by for a chat then all will be forgiven xxx
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post How's it spam on /links?
I know I'm not a regular /links person but surely you can post stuff here you've made too? It's just a flash game...if it was "hey guys come to my other forum" or "buy my stuff" then fair enough, but this is just a game...
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post look at their posting history...

(, Thu 12 May 2011, 7:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Of course, if they were to reply to any of this....
All would be forgiven.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 9:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post 1) They appear to be spamming on behalf of steakfacegames.crap, and...
2) The game is shit, just max out each skill for each league and you're guaranteed to win.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 9:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post 1: Prolly
2: I knew this before even starting, it's buggy and annoying and I still played it through, that's what I don't really get.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 16:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post These burgers are great!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhmCVzrDmBU
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:08, , Reply)
This is a link post Stanley Unwin + Carry on. Wan Seal
Not wishing to be morbid and all, but Mum had a mini stroke this a.m. and started talking very much like Stanley Unwin. The whole f.a.s.t. thing showed up nothing but she didn't realise she was talking gobble de gook. This is weirdly a good pointer if you think you're going mad when someone does this but their face isn't drooping etc. And Unwin was a great innovator so worth an excuse.
She's okay at the mo by the way. So, same as f.a.s.t.. Catch em quick and get them sorted even if they actually think you are the one who makes no sense ( anyone else experience this too?)
Right, I'll feck off and I'll be having none of your maudlin good wishes. I'm now going to indulge in a stiff one, followed by a strong drink.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post glad your ma's ok........Unwin FTW
:D
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post My Grandad had a stroke,
He ended up a little like that. He talked in opposites, "No" meant yes etc. I think the actual term is called 'Aphasia'. It means that the brain makes the wrong links in language, if it's any help it can right itself naturally but it's quicker with therapy.

Hope she get's better soon.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 9:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post
"Shut your cake-hole" is a smashing expression. I intend to use it much more from now on.

Glad your Mum is ok and hope she recovers quickly.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 10:25, , Reply)
This is a link post Celtic Manager Neil Lennon chinned by Hearts fan.
Don't know why he did it or really care. I just wonder why he did the dramatic leap in the air to actually hit him. People like this make me piss, it's a game. Other fans wind me up and I do it to them but it's no more than that, why some people go further I'll never know.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post I used to love football as a kid
Hate it now. Tribalistic violence, overpaid players, theatrical sissies, blah blah blah
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post pretty much the same for me
I find it too frustrating watching a match now
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Rugby League.


It's where it's at.

Try the Rhinos.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm a southerner
Union my friend.
union
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post I agree
Union FTW, but not southern teams... Tigers FTMFW.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Union???
oh, please....

"Quickly Tarquin....kick it!"


Watch the challenge cup match from Saturday on the iplayer...Leeds v Crusaders....

Union can only dream of games like that
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 13:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post What the fuck is going on up there?
I know Celtic v Rangers has always been a Catholic v Protestant conflict by proxy, but why has it suddenly flared up so much? And why is Lennon in particular copping so much of it?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post Lennon's always been a bit of a hate figure
He's got a fair temper on him, and he was never the most gracious of players.

I doubt the attack had much to do with sectarianism - Hearts fans tend to care a lot less about that kind of thing than, say, Rangers fans
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post ehrm...Sir, i think you will find that...
Those fucking smelly dirty Jambo wankends frequently sing sectarian songs , wave unionist flags, salute with the red hand of Ulster to the point where: due to their smaller size of club (as opposed to Rangers) they have now commonly become referred to as ..."The Diet Huns"

Edinburgh's other team "HIBERNIAN" has strong Irish roots but has emancipated itself from any of that bigoted shite displayed by the Jambo's and Huns etc...unfortunately in spite of all the subtitled French films , poetry reading & fine wine the Hibernian fans so often indulge in...the team on the park are hopeless.... alas
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post A nice balanced view of things then.

(, Thu 12 May 2011, 8:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Lennon's Northern Irish and I think Catholic, he certainly manages and used to play for a catholic team.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post I much prefer the friendly muslim rivalry between City and United



(in case it's not obvious, Man City are Sunni and United are Shiite).
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post well
Essentially Rangers and Celtic supporters have been winding each other up for decades only now it's got to the point where certain people seem to be taking it a step further by being all mad and nutty about things by sending bombs, smashing up players cars, sending threats, etc. To make matters worse the clubs have started accusing the SFA of being biased and corrupt which is being reported in the media in the usual "aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh" type of way. This is then being picked up by the total nutjob supporters and it's now snowballing out of control as a result. The media who are the ones doing the criticising are also, ironically, just as responsible for stoking the flames.

It would help greatly though if Managers and club staff kept their mouths shut when poked with a stick by journalists trying to and usually succeeding in making them say something inflammatory.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 8:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post A dog would never do that... ahem.

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post And this is why real men watch cricket.

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think the team in white will win.

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Its all gone a bit to far hasnt it?
I am an FA and KNVB (Dutch FA) qualified ref and ref top level amateur football and I would be scared to be out on the pitch as a ref or lino in Scottish FA football. I think its a total disgrace what has gone on and on for years in Scotland, this season its just boiled on and on. I dont support any of them and I am an Atheist so the religion card means nothing to me too. I just see thugs off and on the pitch spoiling for a fight. In this day and age of where football is at in most of the world its a disgrace.
I would really like UEFA to step in and remove the licence for the Scottish FA. Ban them from Europe for a few years, also the Reffs could play a part in hurting the clubs that want to carry on this shit.
Here is the lines from the FIFA manual which is also viable for UEFA competitions.
"a decision to stop or not to stop a match due to spectator interference or any problem in spectator areas" - so basically if the crowd start the sectarian chanting the ref should blow the whistle and gather the linos and walk to the dressing room. Game Over and report made to the FA to explain why.
Also reffs have the ultimate cover all rule.
"a decision to abandon a match for whatever reason"
Imagine a build up to an old firm game - all the bullshit in the press, all the usual build up. On match day the teams get on the pitch and just about to start when the ref decides the two sides have been antagonising each other all week so he think its not a sporting occasion and he abandons the game. Imagine the uproar it would cause! the TV companies would go mental at having no game to broadcast, hopefully lean on the FA more to take harsher action.
The only way to stop this is to fine and enforce bans and employ more people to watch the CCTV and get the idiots arrested and banned for life from every ground in Europe.


Bit of a rant but this kind of rubbish has no place in "my" football ;)
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post Calm down dear

(, Thu 12 May 2011, 8:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post You have some interesting and well thought out points there, from what is an interesting and wholly relevant perspective.
Personally, the way I'd solve the sectarian problem would be to scrap Scottish football because it's shite anyway.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 10:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah that too ;)
But I was wearing my ref's hat (oh shit I wasn't - a ref is not allowed to wear a hat under any condition) but yeah I agree Scottish football is not up to much. Maybe that's why they have this sub game of sectarian violence going on?
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 11:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry, it is *your* football.
You chose to get actively involved in what is, to all intents and purposes, tribal warfare.

The *only* difference here is that the Scottish supporters are more vocal and open about it.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 10:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not been to many amatuer football games then?
Normally the worst thing to happen is that the away team only buy me a half and not a pint after the game!
Yes in the 10 years I have been doing this I have been called all the names under the sun and a couple of times threatened but most of the times reminding the player that I am in charge and will take action stop it all.
Action for hitting a ref would be an automatic 3 year ban from all KNVB sanctioned football and a fine, also the whole club would probably get a ban, if not the offending team. I have seen football clubs driven out of business because their fans attacked a ref. If a club is banned the members wont pay subs so they have no money.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 11:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
/ac
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 9:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post I did like the comment I saw on this
Apparently the man that attacked Neil Lennon at last night’s Celtic v Hearts game has been identified as his long suffering postman...
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 9:52, , Reply)
This is a link post Funny and informative look at the case for Scottish Independence
Free of anger or bile, and with a pretty decent soundtrack. Well worth a watch
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'll watch this later, I'm too sleepy now
My opinion before watching is that it serves nobodies interest to have Scotland become separate from Britain. Last time I checked majority Scotland agreed with me.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post I haven't came down on one side or the other yet - there's pros and cons to both sides
The video's definitely worth a watch though

Even if you don't agree with the idea in principle, it's good to see Mel Gibson and the horrible 'Scotland homecoming' campaign getting the slagging they deserve. Also, it contains the 'It's shite being Scottish' scene from Trainspotting. What's not to love?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post So what is the number one good thing for Britain and Scotland if Scotland leave?

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Discussing country borders
from a "good" and "bad" perspective is probably useless. Nationhood has much more to do with feelings and relationships than it has with either positive or negative values.

You could have asked the same of the act of union itself, and gotten the same unintelligible answers.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post There's a lot more to it than just feelings
I think that underestimates the issue somewhat. There's many sound economic reasons both for and against separation from the Union, which could be classed as "good" or "bad". Also not sure where these "unintelligible" answers are coming from - care to elaborate?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fine, beneficial then, from any perspective except nationalism (so economic etc)
The number one benefit for Scotland and Britain if Scotland leave the union.

Nationalism should be abandoned as a political tool, and preferably as a concept altogether except in the context of history lessons.
It's is outdated and makes me unreasonably angry, especially when used as a reason for anything in political discourse. It's BOLLOCKS.

grrrrrrr
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post The SNP (the main party in favour of independence) aren't a Nationalist party, by the way
SNP stands for 'Scottish National Party,' not 'Scottish Nationalist Party.' Alex Salmond has said that Scottish people include those living in Scotland who think of themselves as Scottish - there's absolutely no Nationalism at play here. Accusations of such are often flung to muddy the waters
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah I understand that SNP are a legit political party
I was responding to CoD's use of the term 'Nationhood'
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post The benefits for Scotland's easy
Control of it's own economy, not being dragged into unnecessary wars, and not being ruled by a Tory-led government no-one in Scotland voted for (only 1 Tory MP in the whole of Scotland, and that's down in the borders)

As for the benefit to Britain as a whole, well, that's a lot less tangible. On the one hand, Westminster would no longer receive North Sea Oil Revenue, but on the other hand, it would resolve the West Lothian question. I suppose the benefits all depend on your perspective
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Lothian question should not really be discussed in this debate
and certainly not used as a reason for Scotland to bog off out of Britain. If it is serious enough then it can be resolved with Scotland remaining in Britain.

I'd love to stop and chat but I'm really sleepy now and have to go beddy byes cos I'm working on the morrow
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post his most compelling argument was the totally different political desires of the scottish electorate
Which is depressing since if scotland left us then i guess the tory proportion of the 'british' vote would go up.
don't leave us :(
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha, this is probably the most convincing argument against independence
I'd hate to leave the rest of the country in the hands of the Tories for the next hundred years

Like I say, as a Scotsman myself, I'm not fully decided either way, but I can see the merits in both positions
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post For me it's the most convincing argument for independance
Just the thought of leaving the English in perpetual loony right wing rule just fills me with karmic joy.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 11:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post I liked that :) I apologize for the following rant ha.
I've sort of altered my stance on this over the last few years. I regard my self as British, as I have family and heritage from all over the island as well as Ireland. And so it used to annoy me quite a lot when Scottish friends would say "I'm not British I'm Scottish", given the political, geographical, historic and migratory relationship we have in the here and now, I've softened to that personal identity choice now though, after all I'm technically English but I don't place much emphasis on it out of my own choice. But yeah, currently I cant see any real political or economic argument which clinches it either way to justify or oppose an immediate break in the union; other than just the whim of the populace (its self the only justification you need).

I like the fact I have connections across our islands, that wont change whether the union breaks or not, I do worry however about the strength of the Labour party vote in England though, so thats probably my main concern about independence.

I think the issue needs to be seen in a much broader context, and thats the problem with independence movements, by their nature theyr'e far too provincial, it doesn't take into account the fluid and complex relationship individual regions from, Country Derry to Kent, have. England is a massive country with a huge populace, its self far more diverse than any broader differences you can find between Scotland and England etc. I think it's best to see governance issues like this in terms of population sizes. So if you break the union down to the individual regions, say Yorkshire which has a bigger economy and larger population than Scotland, or even the Republic of Ireland, you could argue that Yorkshire or the south west have as much right to self determination as the Welsh or Scottish do. So why not have a situation where we have more devolution (real devolution unlike what was proposed back in 2004) break up the disproportionate swing the south east of England has (to be made worse under an English only Parliament). Have semi-autonomous regions handling their affairs in ways which work best for them, overseen by a PR elected Federal Government. Scotland gets the powers it deserves, as do the rest of the regions. The Tories wont get the disproportionate power that they wield over everyone, but still get the majority power they deserve in the regions that typicaly vote for them. The economy stays the same (probably improving for each region), Foreign Affairs stay the same etc. Under that system every one is happy, we still have the cultural economic and 'emotional' links to each other. And infact it would move the independance issue away from a be all or end all choice towards one that is much more centered on the economic etc facts.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 1:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post quite like this one.
BOOYAKASHA
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:02, , Reply)
This is a link post MACHO salad.
Scandinavian chappie tries to seductively "take" his wife with a display
of kitchen manliness.

I'll risk the NSFW unless told otherwise :-)
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post which movie is this?
i was counting how many words i could actually understand. i think i got "leg off", tomatoes and salad.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 21:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Got no idea of the scource bud,
I was thinking that it might be a clip from some Norwegian/Swedish TV show.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 21:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's from a film called 'Farsan' apparently.
www.randomwalkthroughfilm.com/2010/05/farsan-sweden.html
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:26, , Reply)
This is a link post Chinese coin counterfeiting
The gallery's worth a look.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Some pretty impressive "replica" coins there
I'd love to see some video of their coin presses in operation though. Much more interesting than the highly automated stuff I've seen before.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post i gave up after a couple of pages
1 image per page for fuck's sake
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post there's information below the photos
It's quite interesting. Read it.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:48, , Reply)
This is a link post Wow.
"we ask you to take just a few seconds to think of a good, accurate title and description for your link"

I've been here for minutes, and all I can think of is "wow"
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post wow
indeed.

I also love that he appears to be performing at a poorly attended talent contest in a village hall.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post heh!
I can see what you mean.

It was a cabaret style show at a small UK circus festival last weekend, probably only something like 150 people there - but he totally rocked the place!
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahahahah
totally rocked 150 people in his display of camp rave Kenny G windwalking
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post word!
:D
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post To save anyone else wasting four minutes
It's a bloke holding a ball doing the walking against the wind mime.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post while it's true of many a thing
I can't help but look at at that and think, well done, you have perfected something that is completely useless :D
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's probably not a good discussion to start
how many hobbies, interests, skills, call them what you will, fall into that category? Photoshopping pics for B3ta comps is definitely in the good-but-useless category. Great skill and technique involved, takes lots of practice to become good at it, will amuse a few people, but ultimately useless.

As an owner of a few yo-yos, juggling balls, etc. I happily fall into that category too.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post which is why I started with "while it's true of many a thing"
I'd argue that perfecting Photoshop is a little more useful in getting a job than making a tennis ball look like it is a floating immovable object though :D
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Agree entirely

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post You say that
but he does make his living with this stuff, he's also done TV and Film work off the back of it as well.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post Who? Happy Toast or Mr Wobbly Legs with a ball?
Admirable if it was the latter.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post For you, yes.. for him?
When you start talking about usefulness it's a path into the deep dark, where you're only a few steps away from discussing the meaning of life.

Just sayin' - that's all :)
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post 42

(, Thu 12 May 2011, 1:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post the noise I made was more like "hmpph" than "wow"

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post very fluid....not quite wow factor but nicely done :)
was half expecting some kind of "climax" to the act...blow us all away!!!
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post to be honest
I didn't actually watch all of it.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post Rather too many festivals methinks...
Pretty good, in a WTF? kind of way.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post wow indeed...
...but her hair needs to have a think
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post A red egg hatches..
the curse contained inside fries every mind to a small inedible omelette.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post The tune's infinitely better than the original.

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post I thought
I didn't agree with you there, then I fired up the original version and you're right.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post Prodigy = shite. Trufax.
(Mainly because I saw them live at Reading once and I bloody loved Experience but the rest of their stuff was a bit meh and they started to play Charlie and that was great but then they just went into Firestarter and carried on playing none of their earlier stuff at all. Fuckers. Keith flint is a dick.)
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 21:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post some of the stuff
on music for the jilted generation is pretty good, but almost everything after that is pretty gash. Their most recent stuff just sounds like a poor cover of a pendulum track.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 21:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post I like what they did with PWEI
And pretty much anything Howlett was in charge of. Otherwise, nah. And don't get me started on Pendulum ;)
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 21:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post This guy is better :D
.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtztrcGkCBw
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 1:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post I happened to have some sitar music playing already so I muted the video and it went very nicely.

(, Thu 12 May 2011, 4:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post
That was shit.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 4:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post isn't that the same guy that was posted yesterday?

(, Thu 12 May 2011, 8:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post
good at the windwalk, but the contact leaves much to be desired in my opinion, but most importantly, wtf is up with the top?
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post is it a man-human
or a woman-human?


I do like a good bit of moon walking though. The rest was a bit shit.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 15:45, , Reply)
This is a link post Eamonn Holmes hiding behind a woman
Bwah-hah hah! Never seen this before, Fathers 4 Justice campaigners storm the National Lottery show and fair put the willies up the big Irishman.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahahahahaha
tough guy eh?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahaha
she even has to comfort him
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post I missed the bit where they put their willies up him
I'd hide from that, too.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post It would have been a different story if they were made of cake.

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 23:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Gambling man
Fathers for justice really do hate the lotto don't they.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 4:51, , Reply)
This is a link post Just how much of an arseclown is Julian Asshat?
Quite a lot, it would appear.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't agree with that at all.
It's not like Wikileaks simply gets info and then sells it on, they have to painstakingly make sure that each document is legit and then redacting personal info. Sure it may be a high valuation, but they're the ones taking risks against what are effectively nation states and their security services.

In it's simplest terms it's only slightly different from an investigative journalist protecting his hard work against unauthorised publication (plagiarism).
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well...
... Don't you find the idea of placing such an extensive (and unenforceable) gagging order on the employees of an organisation that is supposedly devoted to the dissemination of information just a little bit, um, ironic?
Don't you think that it stinks that Wikileaks presents itself as working pro bono publico at the same time as explicitly spelling out its commercialism (as in para. E(a) of the document)?
Don't you wonder how they can be so sure that all their information has a market value of £12m?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post
1st point - No, not at all. Doing what they do, and employing people to do it while ensuring their safety, isn't free.

2nd point - I would take a guess that part of their need to turn to commercialisation, other than their own living costs etc., would be "persuading" potential whistle blowers to blow their whistles (look at Bradley Manning) while also having enough financial clout to guarantee that they themselves have a formidable legal backup when necessary.

3rd point - I'm wearing a pair of jeans that I really like, I don't want to lose them... if YOU wanted to buy them off me I wouldn't take any less than £15 billion. Don't like my overinflated valuation for a pair of £90 Papfar jeans? Tough shit. Although to make my analogy fit more accurately; these jeans are one-of-a-kind, potentially contain evidence for the deaths of XX amount of people and the CIA, KGB and MI5 all would love to steal them themselves and burn them.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post I accept it's not free
and they possibly do have to sell their information to stay afloat. However, that's somewhat at odds with their representation of themselves as disinterested defenders of the public good; it means that they're simply a kind of information broker - a middleman between the person who has the information, and the person who wants it. (Does Wikileaks give the people who leak them information a dividend based on its value? I'm not sure. If they do, then they are basically a brokerage - which is fine, but they should be upfront about it. If they don't, then it looks like they're horrible exploitative of the people who actually take the risks.)

Now, they might want to charge to provide legal cover and so on; but presumably, that'd be factored into the price that they charge the media outlets to which they sell information. It's not obvious why it'd justify a gag on employees. In rather the same way, a shopkeeper will want to insure against theft, and the price of this insurance will be part of the cost paid by the consumer. She wouldn't normally have to threaten employees with a strangely precise and undiscriminating bond of their own in addition.

And in respect of your DNA-laced jeans analogy: well, if I don't want to pay your price, I don't have to. I'm assuming you don't want to sell them, so you can set any notional price you want. Wikileaks, on the other hand, presumably does want to sell what it has. By appealing to the market value, though, that means that they lose any entitlement to dictate the price. They can try to, as would any other seller; but in the end, information (or any other good) is only worth what people are willing to sell. And you don't know what that'll be in advance.

Also, you pay too much for your trousers.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post They take no risks... all the US iraq/Afghan leaks saw one man in prison
and wikileaks stand there watching him being hung out to dry... betcha can't name him without a google.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Bradley Manning, isn't it?

(, Thu 12 May 2011, 10:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'll reserve judgement until I hear a more balanced report
Possibly one where he explains the reasoning behind it
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Read
the document itself. res ipsa loquitur, surely?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Meh
The guy was and is the focus of an international shitstorm, he was and is being hounded on all fronts. If you want to work for liki-weaks then you sign that form, if not, don't. It just seems like is makes Assuage harder to get at through the people he employs, you want to bribe his staff you have to pay their legal fees also. Raises the bar.

I wouldn't sign it, but somebody will and has. Was there a complaint from staff? I just see a paper criticising something out of context.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe its a way of stopping arsehat journos infiltrating and nicking stuff?

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post You mean
doing pretty much what Wikileaks does? It's not as if they obtain their information legitimately.

Imagine you have a business model based on selling what you know to be stolen goods. In what sense do you have any rights over them? And why is this different?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post There are finacial imperatives and moral imperatives
I doubt very much the average journalist is motivated by their morals.

Hope fully wikileaks is trying to make a difference and correct injustices and tell the truth, not something I would expect from a journalist.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Huh?
But if Wikileaks really is acting pro bono publico, why force its employees to sign a gagging order with a £12m price tag? I mean, wouldn't it make more sense for those with access to a given piece of information to be informed of the strategy for its release, so that the moral high ground could be occupied by Wikileaks whatever happened? (That is: wouldn't an explanation to employees of what's what and what's at stake be much more in keeping than issuing them with legal threats?)

And if Wikileaks is acting wholly for moral rather than commercial reasons (not that I see how the two necessarily conflict), then why stress the commercial value of the information and the financial loss to Wikileaks as rationales for the gagging order?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:48, , Reply)
This is a link post Guy forces his wife to dress in a garbage bag for the next three years
Not much more i can say really
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't get it
Did the stupid-looking bloke make her do it so he could would appear less of a weirdo?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:44, , Reply)
This is a link post Angry man on subway decides to get all naked and stuff NSFW
Pretty much ronseal.

NSFW for a naked mentalist swearing in a racist manner.

It's probably GC but the search engine doesn't seem to be working for me.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post We've all had days like that.,

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post no harm untill he took that ladies bag...
remember be nuts but don't touch.
(also i why the hell do people tilt the camera like that!!! makes me wanna get nakid and shit)
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Here's the non-tilted version
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLAskj9AEdM from the related videos.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post Is that the guy
Who was trying to start a USA! USA! chant a couple of days ago?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post ha ha

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post This video taught me an important lesson...
When you live in flats and the flat upstairs is occupied by a black family, make sure your speakers are not set to fuck-off loud before opening a video of a man shouting niggers.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post woah
id hate to see what he`s like when he takes the bus.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:19, , Reply)
This is a link post Mate's photo. Just too good not to share...

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post Has that cat urinated in disgust ?
Good pic :)
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post I was wondering this myself
the welly sprouted in sympathy though.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:11, , Reply)
This is a link post I dub thee Sir Penguin
The King of Norway knights an aquatic bird.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post I do wonder how much higher they can promote him - general? field marshall?
or would Admiral be more appropriate?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Olav
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:29, , Reply)
This is a link post The most evil puzzle game in the world?
Get the red block out of the frame.

I have managed level 1.

[edit] I snapped and wrote a program to do it. Yay!

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Are you a member of Mensa....
Wow that's tough, I'm gone keep going, cheers.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post I just prodded it until I got somewhere.
The second level has made me insane with rage. I am going to go and write a program to solve it now!
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post Good advice, proding and poking seemed to help....

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post it bloody doesn't!

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ah, I remember these puzzles...
...from the Professor Layton DS games. There is a technique to them, but I'm buggered if I can remember it now...!
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post It took me over half an hour to complete the first puzzle..
I should have kissed my friends and family goodbye before opening the link.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post Took me about 10 minutes?
Although, I don't know about the second level...

Edit: yup, just had a rage quit on the second...
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post I too
Have gotten the block out on level 1. The trick is to forget about the red one for a bit and try and navigate the smaller blue blocks behind it...
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post done the first one in 5 mins
gave up on the other 2
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:33, , Reply)
This is a link post ALLAH AKHBAR!
EDIT: It's not really NSFW but you might not want to watch it if you're having your tea.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post admiral
akbar?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hahahahaha
God really is great :D
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?!?
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7_0NoRHOEM
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 18:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not really NSFW?!?! FFS someone gets blown up and killed.

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post lulz

(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post a fucking paki terrorist
so what?

Anyone willing to blow anyone else up, deserves to die themselves.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 21:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post racist scum

(, Thu 30 Jun 2011, 21:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post lesson one :Mortars
The pointy bit, points to the sky.

Points to the ground = .:BANG:.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 20:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post haha
Thats karma right there
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 21:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post IT'S A TRAP!
*kaboom*
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post Who is that person and why is everyone so sure he's a terrorist?
This looks like fake to me anyway.

Working on the basis that this is real, how do we know he's a terrorist? He could be a Libyan rebel. Its a good guess that he is Islamic because of the other people shouting but I don't think you can really go any further than that.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 22:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post That car was never flying.
The fucking liar.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post My uncle's boss
used to own it and I sat in it when I was a kid. The seats were slashed and the wings were ripped but it was still marvellous. The old girl's obviously had a makeover since.
(, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:37, , Reply)
This is a link post Not a fan of CBBC (honestly)
But just flicked over to this and it made me chortle.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post horrible histories is really good
I started watching it a few weeks back.

aside from that it probably is bollocks though.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Spotted Cliff Tumble on Cbeebies while babysitting my nephews
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA3_X-lfio8 bit bizarre, RBF might spunk his knickers over it though.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 19:38, , Reply)
This is a link post A new (and my new favourite) Improv Everywhere video
It would have been churlish not to share...
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 17:04, , Reply)
This is a link post The First Episode of In The Gloaming! NSFW I made this!
But it's really to let those of you who were asking know that my hour-long show, featuring a fat wodge of Ian Bowler live is on in Brighton this weekend. Do come along if you'd like.

The details are here: www.brightonfestivalfringe.org.uk/ticketing/listing.aspx?ev=2384&et=7&ed=11859

Apologies for the sort of spam-thing.
(, Wed 11 May 2011, 16:53, , Reply)

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