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Freddie Woo tells us "I'm having to drive 500 miles to pick up my son from the ex's house because she won't let him take the train in case he gets off at the wrong station. He's 19 years old and has A-Levels and everything." - Tell us about illogical and irrational people who get on your nerves.

(, Thu 10 Oct 2013, 12:24)
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Moon Hoax
This isn't (directly) about people who think that the Apollo Moon landings were faked. They're not (necessarily) irrational, just ignorant, gullible and too lazy to actually think about it properly.

I discovered that one of my work-mates was one of these poor deluded fools, but he was also someone who was interested in an intellectual debate over a couple of beers. I was happy to oblige, and told him to gather any supposed evidence he could find, so I could point out why it was invalid.

He duly turned up at the pub with some printouts from a website he'd found. I started to read it, looking for all the usual cliches - no stars in the sky (chuckle), flag waving (chortle), wrong shadow directions (guffaw). But it quickly became apparent that this was something different, and far stranger.

The website he'd found was claiming, apparently seriously, that the Moon itself didn't actually exist. The fact that we think we can see it in the sky was an illusion, a conspiracy perpetrated by the shadowy powers that control our lives. Yes, the Moon is a hoax. Clearly we can't have landed on it, since it doesn't exist.

I have to admit that I found it hard to know where to start with my rebuttal...
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 11:10, 25 replies)
Link to the Moon-Doesn't-Exist Society website please!

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 11:46, closed)
this.
EDIT: This is quite fun:

www.revisionism.nl/Moon/
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:28, closed)
Oh how wonderful!
I fucking love this stuff!
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:51, closed)
Yes, that looks like the one
Even more batshit mental than I remembered.
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 16:00, closed)
EPIC trolling

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 16:20, closed)
there are tonnes.
They are all sarcastic in nature:

www.zippittydodah.com/2012/08/the-truth-is-out-there-is-no-moon.html
(, Wed 16 Oct 2013, 2:54, closed)
Tides.

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 11:53, closed)
Tides are due to the gravitational effects of Russell's teapot.

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 11:58, closed)
Ah, but does it use leaf or bag?

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:43, closed)
As a pastafarian I can assure you that it is leaf.

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:51, closed)
I'm grotesquely upset by the suggestion that the Celestial Teapot be used to brew tea.
Heathens.
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 13:22, closed)
This to win!
I'm deeply intrigued. How did the conversation progress?
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:00, closed)
It's only a picture. Like the Bat-Signal.

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:05, closed)
I bet you're not even a real monkey.

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:44, closed)
I bet you're not even a real paedophile.

(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:52, closed)
He smells like one,

(, Wed 16 Oct 2013, 6:51, closed)
I can't smell anything over the smell of dogs anus on his finger

(, Wed 16 Oct 2013, 15:38, closed)
wow just wow that is out there
but for the less insane ones

The best rebuttal to the normal(as far as they go anyroad) 'moon landing wuz faked' morons is one Stephen Fry said on QI "the reason why we know the Americans landed on the moon is because the Russians didn't think it was faked" Saves time proving all the usual flapping flag and all the other shite
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 14:04, closed)
and the Chinese have provided fantastic images of the landing sites and the space
mission debris. Oh, and I pretty sure that Stephen Fry had heard that rhetoric from lots of other people. I hate when Mr. Fry is attributed with original observations.
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 18:41, closed)
Was it Julie Burchill who described Mr Fry as "the stupid person's clever person"?
I don't have much time for her, either, mind.
(, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 23:19, closed)
I didn't say he'd made it up I just heard him say it
calm down dear
(, Wed 16 Oct 2013, 9:04, closed)
Well that argument just trumps everything doesn't it?
Sorry the (subject of argument) doesn't even exist anyway so I win.
(, Wed 16 Oct 2013, 1:55, closed)
Actually, that's the only way I've ever found to shut God Botherers up:
Tell them you don't believe that the universe exists - it's all an illusion. Including the person attempting to convert you, of course.
(, Wed 16 Oct 2013, 11:52, closed)

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