That is a sad compromise but a necessary one
My mate was also forced into buying a Z-4 in similar wife-related circumstances, and swapped his beloved Giulietta for it. Sad times. Mind you, the Alfa really was a shitheap. The fuel outlet was at the front of the tank so you couldn't get up steep hills if you were below 1/4 full. While on holiday he had to reverse up an entire mountain. IN ITALY.

I'd laugh at Italians forgetting that mountains exist, only someone would say something smartarsed about our famously rain-intolerant British convertibles.
( pineapplecharm D d M Y, H:i, Tue 28 Jan 2014, 13:35, 1 reply)

My wife.........
........drives a Cooper S. She's had faster cars than me, but prefers a bit of luxury nowadays, and I can't say I blame her. The Z4's an okay compromise, in that it's relatively fast, warm and dry in winter, yet fun with the top down on windy winding Lincolnshire roads. We both preferred the Honda S2000, but the tax & insurance were astronomical.
( The Lone Groover has mal des nuts., Tue 28 Jan 2014, 15:30, closed)

I'm surprised the Z4 is cheaper
IIRC the S2000 came top for "general ownership experience" on the Top Gear survey pretty much every year it was in production. So it must've been worth it.

Just wait for the 'classic' status to roll around. The Elan, in London, fully comp, 10k miles a year (and honestly I won't do half that) is £250. WinRAR.
( pineapplecharm D d M Y, H:i, Tue 28 Jan 2014, 15:43, closed)

Z4
Insurace £220 fully comp, group 16.
S2000 £620 fully comp, group 20, much larger xs too.

Sometimes the wallet has to rule the head. Sadly.
( The Lone Groover has mal des nuts., Tue 28 Jan 2014, 16:48, closed)

Jesus, that's a little stern
Is it prone to being nicked or something?
( pineapplecharm D d M Y, H:i, Tue 28 Jan 2014, 17:32, closed)

No, it's prone to fucking you up and leaving you in a hedge backwards
It really is a handful in the wet, because the power delivery is astonishingly abrupt and there's an LSD and no traction control.

I bloody loved it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 30 Jan 2014, 11:45, closed)

Could have .....
....something to do with me being old. Once I get to the "age" question with the S2000 the line goes rather silent, and polite coughing noises are made. The Z4 is still rather mainstream, hence the affordability.
( The Lone Groover has mal des nuts., Tue 28 Jan 2014, 17:54, closed)

But £620 is hardly a 'fuck off' price
And wouldn't age make you a lower risk? Or do you need catlike reactions to keep it on the road? Frankly, given the state of its suspension and brakes, I'm amazed insurers will issua a policy for an MGB driven by anyone less alert than Lewis Hamilton. This doesn't seem to bear out in the prices I hear, though. Mainly because they break down before they get up to ramming speed...

I hear you on the age thing though. Some cars are .. better suited to the more mature gent. I am not very young, and also quite tall, and have suffered many 'did it blow your hair off then?' jokes over the past year.
( pineapplecharm D d M Y, H:i, Tue 28 Jan 2014, 19:02, closed)

Being retired.......
..........is a major no-no. Swiftcover simply cancelled my insurance & told me to look elsewhere when they knew I'd retired. As for hair, what's that?
( The Lone Groover has mal des nuts., Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:16, closed)

The classics one is really interesting
because you're spot on. My '72 B (in profile) was more terrifying at 70 then innumerable other new cars I've driven at 140. It could get sideways at about 10 mph with no difficulty and I had to disconnect the servo assist on the brakes because it actually made them better.

Yet it cost me £150 a year to insure. Go figure.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 30 Jan 2014, 11:48, closed)

Really?
REALLY? I had an S2000 when I was 27. Parked on the street, in fucking Bracknell of all places. Cost less than £700 to insure fully comp.

Have you raped some insurance underwriter's dog at some point in the past?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 30 Jan 2014, 11:43, closed)