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( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 15:47, 1 reply, 12 years ago)

This is a stupid fucking idea
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/apr/12/nhs-local-pay-department-health
Race to the bottom.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:03, Reply)

You would say that.
Why should a civil servant in Sunderland earn the same as one in Milton Keynes. The cost of living in the Northeast is lower.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:06, Reply)

Because they're doing the same job.
Exactly the same job, with the same interviews, requirements, policys, systems, experience required etc.

And you're talking about people on £18-£30k a year effectivly getting a pay cut while all the high earners are exempt. Stupid.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:13, Reply)

Taxpayers money innit.
Easy saving for the govt - popular with everyone who isn't a civil servant. Lowest common denominator politics.

What's the difference between the above and London Weighting?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:17, Reply)

London weighting was because the wage of a lot of NHS staff was below the living wage for NHS staff in london.
It's the difference between topping up and pulling down.
I don't agree with the london weighting, I think it would be much better to have more available and affordable Key housing within the M25.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:20, Reply)

But it's there to offset the difference in the cost of living.
So what's the difference between that and paying less in cheaper areas?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:22, Reply)

Because most of these poor cunts earn fuck all as it is.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:23, Reply)

That's not the point.
The point is whether you should earn less in cheaper parts of the country.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)

Because it's based on the principal of everyone struggling the same amount
not everyone being as comfortable as each other. And that from ultimatly an employer is callous and immoral.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:29, Reply)

What do you want then?
£100 an hour?

There are better paid jobs, try and get one.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:34, Reply)

If nurses were all living in Mansions in Blackburn maybe they'd have a point.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:17, Reply)

Don't be a fucking nurse then.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:18, Reply)

An awful lot of people are taking that advice.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:23, Reply)

Don't get me wrong
it's a piss poor indictment of where our priorities lay but if the money isn't enough, do something else.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)

The government do a very good job of presenting the whole of the public sector as hate figures
They like to cherry pick the information so that people think that across the board all public sector workers have the holidays of teachers, the pay of council leaders, the pension of Fred Goodwin, etc. I DONT GET THESE PERKS IN MY PRIVATE SECTOR JOB SO WHY SHOULD THEY???
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:21, Reply)

I don't get these perks yet I pay for yours.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:23, Reply)

I bet you've got a good accountant who ensures that you don't.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)

The private sector is mostly paye so no ,not really

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:26, Reply)

PAYE me. I pay a fucking fortune in tax and NI.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:26, Reply)

Good.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)

I don't begudge it (like I have a choice)
but I think I am entitled to ask to see some value.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:29, Reply)

You are entitled to a vote every five years
Which may or may not have some bearing on who makes some of the decisions on how it is spent. That is all.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:30, Reply)

Maybe.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:33, Reply)

Also, public sector workers pay tax and NI too.
They may not be able to draw much of it back as pensions though.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:31, Reply)

They'll draw back more than I will.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 16:33, Reply)

Yes you do. Jimmy fucking Hill old son.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 12 Apr 2012, 17:35, Reply)