I got sacked for "stealing" my own stuff
2005. I was one of the main chefs in a busy, very trendy and overpriced cafe. I had a baby-faced boss, who thought he was god's gift to women. I didn't fancy him, so he had a grudge. He treated all the younger workers like shit, unless he was seducing them. etc. etc.

A 15-year-old girl on work experience was set to work cleaning the toilets and serving at the bar. I objected and the other staff downed tools with me. I not only got sacked, but also accused of stealing MY OWN recipes when I left. This was a feeble attempt to stop me claiming benefits, or the pay I was owed.

So ...I went back late at night and drew a huge purple cock on the front signage. Took 'em ages to get it off. Childish, yeah, but friends made a point of swinging by for months afterwards to give me updates on it.
(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Thu 29 May 2014, 22:19, 36 replies)

no you never

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 29 May 2014, 22:22, closed)

I fucking did! I removed my own recipes from the files and got accused of theft. Took the Jobcentre 10 weeks to investigate
Not only the cock, I actually went all round town writing "B** (Cafe name) is a cunt" on every single tram stop, in permanent marker. That's how bitter I was...
(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Thu 29 May 2014, 22:27, closed)

yeah ... never happened

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 29 May 2014, 22:30, closed)

Shambolic, I admit it wasn't a "massive" cock, it was just a large cock
Other than that, my story is true. I'd post a photo, only that would reveal the business details and B3TA may get into trouble etc.
(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:26, closed)

Why would bitter get in twouble - it happened you did it
trams? Manchester is it
( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:42, closed)

Actually you did steal them
Recipes you create remain the intellectual property of the restaurant you create them for.
(Figmaus, Fri 30 May 2014, 4:16, closed)

Actually,
it depends on what contract/work agreement you signed when you started. Most [good, high-end & reputable] restaurants will make their head chef sign a disclaimer or something like it stating that any recipes they come up with are part of the restaurant's intellectual property.
Unless the chef can prove that the recipe is their IP independently; which can be a costly and time-consuming thing to do, they are pretty much screwed by their contract most of the time.
Any budding Jamie Oliver worth their salt would simply leave out one or two essential ingredients in the original recipe until the restaurant was prepared to concede.
(mankwhistle, Fri 30 May 2014, 7:56, closed)

Mankwhistle, I didn't even have an employment contract

(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:22, closed)

then ... in the nicest possible way ... you're a fucking idiot
as soon as somebody offers you employment and you accept then you have an employment contract and are subject to all the statutory rights and responsibilities of an employee
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:24, closed)

I was YOUNG. I would never take a job now without an employment contract
In fact, I have a salary now and am used to things like sick pay etc. You don't get that in catering.
(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:31, closed)

That guy from Nomo is on DID R4 this morning. He is lke a proper chef.

( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:48, closed)

no ... read it again, petal ... slowly this time
As soon as you accepted the offer of work there was a contract. It doesn't have to be written or signed. If somebody persuaded you that you had no contract and so weren't due normal employee rights then they were taking you for an idiot

you idiot
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 30 May 2014, 10:34, closed)

I hope to hear lots of wise and well-informed advice on employment and discrimination legislation from all the internet lawyers this week.
(mankwhistle, Fri 30 May 2014, 10:47, closed)

pipe down, fairholme
/ac
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 30 May 2014, 10:55, closed)

i was going to post this
goddammit
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 30 May 2014, 11:33, closed)

Don't you love how
when he doesn't have a come back (and he isn't at "deleting" stage yet) he just jumps to conclusions?
(mankwhistle, Fri 30 May 2014, 11:36, closed)

imagine being slower to post an obvious link than albert fairholme ... that's gotta sting

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 30 May 2014, 11:40, closed)

hoisted by your own petard

(andythepieman Is surfing the waves of indifference on, Fri 30 May 2014, 15:51, closed)

Who doesn't enjoy a massive bang that sets your knees trembling.

( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Fri 30 May 2014, 16:11, closed)

I did a massive petard this morning. Proper chair blaster.
None of this detracts from the fact that as soon as you accept an offer of employment you have made a contract whether you sign something or not.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 30 May 2014, 16:19, closed)

tards shouldn't be kept as pets

( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 30 May 2014, 16:49, closed)

but you look so sweet gnawing at the bars of your cage

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 30 May 2014, 17:05, closed)

it helps keep my teeth sharp

( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Sun 1 Jun 2014, 14:56, closed)

Dr Shambolic
I don't mean to be rude, but ...do you actually get out?
(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Fri 30 May 2014, 18:59, closed)

yer ... coz correcting thick folk on the internet clearly tells you a lot about somebody's social life

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 30 May 2014, 19:09, closed)

Let's do some simple arithmetic mixed with some presumptions and a little social engineering shall we?
I have more than once noted when Shambles comes online and when he goes offline on this site. I know of other users who used to give him shit about it - suggesting that he was remiss in being there for his family because it seemed that he spent all of his waking hours on b3ta posting negative, belittling posts.
So, just out of interest I decided to log his online comings and goings on this site. Just for a few days. Just to see. Probably a bit creepy but no more than strangers posting users personal details here. Or him repeatedly posting another member's real name.

So usually he starts posting at around 0600 UK time. Weekday or weekend doesn't seem to make a difference. Clearly he's an early riser. He tends to post fairly consistently during the day (again doesn't seem to matter which day particularly). So, he's on b3ta at work I presume - let's hope all this bitchiness doesn't affect his performance.
And the posts seem to increase in frequency in the evening. On the weekends most of the day he appears to be posting with the same intensity and frequency as he does during weekday evenings. The only conclusion I can draw from that is that he's pretty much on his computer most days, particularly mornings, evenings and weekends. Which means he's clearly not spending that time with his family.

He has in the past accused others of being online for 18 hours. I personally am a night owl. I am frequently up at around 0200-0300. I usually go online or watch tv quietly so as not to wake my family. I work as a contractor, study at uni and I'm the stay-at-home-dad. So essentially I'm on and off the computer all day. I do tend to check in here around 1900 my time - interestingly Shambo is still usually online making his usual hateful posts to and about people. That's means it's about midnight his time. Bearing in mind my posting frequency is nowhere near his level. I might type up a story and then post it or I may get involved in answering posts in a thread but I'm not constantly posting comments in multiple threads day and night. Personally I think that's a bit sad, that a person has so much invective and vitriol to post here so consistently really makes you wonder what sort of person they might be in the real world.

So. 0600 till at least 0000. Now correct me if I'm wrong but that makes 18 hours. Look we all know that Shambles is a hypocrite, but if you look at the number of posts he's made since he's been here it really starts to look a bit like he's obsessed with posting snide, nasty comments on this site - 10602 messages on /board, 92321 messages on /talk and a paltry 13145 replies on /qotw. Over 10 years, 10 months and 5 days. Now even if you just work the posts over time out as a mean value that's at least 30 posts a day to /qotw alone. Remember that's a mean value - it doesn't take into account the times when he is (rarely it would seem) away from his computer or times when he's mashing the keyboard like a demented gibbon trying to get out his latest nastiest zing.

Now that I've typed this out and actually spent a couple of minutes counting my fingers and toes to do the maths I'm a little concerned. At what point during the day when he's either not working or sleeping does he actually spend time with his family? He certainly seems to spend an inordinately large amount of his time on this website making snide, bullying and cheap-shot style sarcastic posts.
On second thoughts I probably shouldn't worry. If he is anything in real life like the bully that he is here then the time he spends online is probably a respite for those close to him.

Let's hope that's not the case.
(mankwhistle, Sun 1 Jun 2014, 8:31, closed)

Christ. You've written fucking loads here.
And at one point you had the nerve to use the word "interestingly" before prattling on for a million paragraphs about how someone might/might not be on their computer.

Whether the stuff Shambolic posts is, as you say "negative and vitriolic" is open to interpretation. It probably is. But it's frequently funny. And at least it's punchy.

In short - you decided to take issue with someone committing a large chunk of their time to b3ta - by sitting down and spewing forth the above lengthy vaginal discharge.
(Andrew Avetoom, Sun 1 Jun 2014, 11:47, closed)

easy now
the last time we bullied this tragic mess he went full retard and claimed he was getting everybody fired
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Sun 1 Jun 2014, 19:43, closed)

It really is him, Fairyholme walks amongst us

( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Mon 2 Jun 2014, 9:07, closed)

I just wondered whether he's got some kind of "app" that tells him when someone's posted in one of the threads he's commented in
So he can jump in there and respond, quick. Does seem a very rapid responder.

BTW I didn't think I needed to spell it out, but when I said "contract", I meant a proper, written employment contract that can be whipped out in times of need and quoted from. As opposed to a verbal agreement (which is a form of contract, but very difficult to prove, e.g. in a tribunal)
(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Sun 1 Jun 2014, 21:20, closed)

^
b3ta.com/questions/sackedagain/post2292976
( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:44, closed)

Great minds do indeed think alike!

(mankwhistle, Fri 30 May 2014, 10:52, closed)

Yeah I thought it, you followed - hardly mind piss was it!

( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Fri 30 May 2014, 11:33, closed)

Figmaus, that's the argument the boss used. If it had gone to court, I could have proven I'd used them in other places prevously and also had some published

(IHateSprouts is baking a huge pie shaped like an enormous pie, Fri 30 May 2014, 9:21, closed)

CHINNY FUCKING RECKON.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 30 May 2014, 7:30, closed)

^admission of criminal damage

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Sat 31 May 2014, 0:45, closed)