I'm on a 'training course' today
two and half hours to learn how to correctly use a ladder, which includes a knee high step ladder. Utter bullshit. The only thing i'm likely going to do is admire the bloke who is probably charging about a hundred pounds an hour running it, for completely wasting my time
( Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 9:42, 16 replies)

Make it more interesting
by asking a LOT of questions.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 9:58, closed)

Considering the ladder has been found depicted in artworks at least 10,000 years old
You have thought we'd have got the hang of them by now
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 10:00, closed)

Don't do what this guy did...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_FMM8FPAU
( Airman Gabber Living life like a 70's BBC presenter, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 10:20, closed)

reminds me of this, even though its older than the net www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSTIV2esa-k
( enoughblueskyforsailorstrousers, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 10:35, closed)

Hahaha!
Oh dear
( Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 10:53, closed)

That's fantastic

( evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 12:18, closed)

That's marvellous

(Kip, Sun 18 Mar 2012, 9:41, closed)

I love courses like that....NOT...
My dad was made to attend a course on how to use a chainsaw safely once, when he turned up the bloke teaching it was someone he'd taught a few years earlier. He'd stopped matey from hacking his own leg off due to a lack of attention to safety more than once......
(repooc, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 10:34, closed)

Good thing you can afford it, eh?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 11:07, closed)

You know this is the sort of course
that employers pay for don't you?
( evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 12:17, closed)

The course is probably cheaper than being sued.
Now you can't turn around and say you were "...given the wrong type of ladder..".
These courses are the fault of ambulance chasing lawyers.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 12:42, closed)

There are only three things an employer has to assess for working at height.
Is it necessary? If not, do it another way
If it is necessary, what can you put in place to prevent a fall?
If someone falls, what can be put in place to minimise the consequences.

Ladder training courses are not required. Accidents happen when people don't use them properly, usually when they're doing it and they know they're doing it wrong.
( M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 12:45, closed)

Erm, "Accidents happen when people don't use them properly...".
That's why they need ladder training. How would you know which was the correct ladder for the situation and how to use it correctly if you were not trained? Oh, and "common sense" is not a term you would want to use when being sued.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 12:54, closed)

If you've trained people in ladder selection
then you're to blame if it all goes horribly wrong. If you let them decide for themselves you can hang 'em out to dry.
(ubergeekian, Sun 18 Mar 2012, 1:37, closed)

Can't see that being the legal position.
Otherwise they could use the wrong one and say you made them use a ladder but didn't tell them which one or how to use it.
The strategy is to get them to sign that they understand ladder selection, inspection and use so if they use the wrong one it's their fault.
I'll admit I'm not a lawyer but if these courses aren't to get companies out of litigation then they would not be there. There is no other reason for any "safety" or similarly mandated training other than to limit liability in the event that something goes wrong.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Mon 19 Mar 2012, 17:59, closed)

That's actually very true
There I was thinking my employer was looking out for my welfare
( Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 16 Mar 2012, 13:04, closed)