I wonder if it's possible to run a car company without being a cunt
Regardless of how 'progressive' and 'cool' your car company is, it's still churning out a product that causes huge social and environmental problems
(, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 11:42, Share, Reply)
I don't understand these problems you speak of.
please enlighten me. I think electric cars are wonderful things and can't wait for them to be adopted fully.
(, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 12:37, Share, Reply)
there are all sorts of discussions on the social impact of cars;
public space is dominated by motor vehicles, but we don't really notice because for most of us it's all we know.
Better public transport would solve a lot of that but private car ownership isn't going away so I guess electric's probably better(?)
(, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 12:51, Share, Reply)
I live off a very busy and polluted road in london.
it's probably killing me (and my children). electric cars would end that overnight. and be allot quieter too. PS. i'm not disagreeing with what you say at all.
(, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 13:57, Share, Reply)
it might reduce thepollution but it's going to be just as busy either way
Dust from brakes and tyres is still going to be a problem. They'll still need extensive and expensive infrastructure to work properly as well as huge investment in electricity generation and distribution
The supply lines are equally polluting. Digging up all the materials and making the things etc. What comes out of the exhaust is barely scratching the surface
(, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 14:29, Share, Reply)
No, I think that's a little wrong - common misconceptions
I'll summarise. From what I understand to be the truth,
1) Particles from brakes are no where near as bad in terms of the amount that gets into your body compared to diesel. say for example 1 diesel car... many magnitudes more particulates come from the exhaust then from the brakes, irrespective of which particle is more toxic (it's diesel).
2) Electric cars use much less brakes! Like hardly any at all depending on your drive mode. they use re-gen as well as brakes. In fact it's possible in the new Nissan Leaf for example to use 1 pedal drive. you lift and the car slows down as if braking, but it's the re-generation - no breaks and much more efficient use of power then letting your engine run when you brake in an internal combustion engine car.
3) The infrastructure does need to be updated somewhat from what I understand. But with smart charging, ie plug your car in at night and let the grid decide when to charge, there shouldn't be need for extra power stations. Don't forget they'll be this massive battery buffer too in the form of millions of rechargeable batteries connected to the grid.
4) The supply is less polluting. A modern gas turbine combined-cycle generator is much much more efficient then a car's IC engine. Especially at peak. Also the supply is not next to my house, the air in my local area would be many times cleaner even if the world as a whole chokes itself to death. Which it wouldn't do.
5) Digging up things to make cars. we do that anyway. probably a net sum of no change there. PS next generation of batteries won't use cobalt, they can use carbon now, if that's what you're referring to?
And what comes out of the exhaust is a massive massive problem compared to digging things up. just plain wrong there I'm afraid.
(, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 15:12, Share, Reply)
remember we're thinking about the effect these things have globally not just on you personally
Complex international supply chains. Global societies and processes. Not just your kids on your street
(, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 16:12, Share, Reply)
