It's consistent with the laws as they are though.
In the US, most of these school killings were by mentally disturbed/crazy people. The school killings in Europe are majority some type of political statement. I don't like either, but using kids as fodder for your personal brand of politics is scary. As is the people who ignore the hundreds of dark skinned kids in Chicago every year and freak out and have 24 hour media coverage when white, middle class kids get killed.
It is sickening.
( , Tue 18 Dec 2012, 20:51, Share, Reply)
In the US, most of these school killings were by mentally disturbed/crazy people. The school killings in Europe are majority some type of political statement. I don't like either, but using kids as fodder for your personal brand of politics is scary. As is the people who ignore the hundreds of dark skinned kids in Chicago every year and freak out and have 24 hour media coverage when white, middle class kids get killed.
It is sickening.
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Do you not find the simple statistic of eight gun deaths in the UK last year
and over ten thousand in the US slightly obvious?
( , Tue 18 Dec 2012, 21:19, Share, Reply)
and over ten thousand in the US slightly obvious?
( , Tue 18 Dec 2012, 21:19, Share, Reply)
Looking on Wikipedia,
rates of gun deaths don't seem to match up to firearm ownership.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Which isn't to say that gun ownership is a good thing, just that I'm sure things like poverty, drugs and bad mental health care are the bigger problem.
( , Tue 18 Dec 2012, 21:47, Share, Reply)
rates of gun deaths don't seem to match up to firearm ownership.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Which isn't to say that gun ownership is a good thing, just that I'm sure things like poverty, drugs and bad mental health care are the bigger problem.
( , Tue 18 Dec 2012, 21:47, Share, Reply)
8 to 10,000 renders even clicking on either of those links meaningless to be honest mate
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The 8 to 10,000 is just comparing two countries, though.
Why is comparing more countries than two meaningless?
If gun ownership was the primary cause then more data would prove that correlation.
However, is it not interesting that a country such as El Salvador can have less guns than us but the highest level of gun crime?
As with most things, there are going to be many causes. Some more than others. The whole "it is entirely about gun ownership" seems overly basic*.
I suspect that America's homicide rate not including guns would also be higher than ours.
* Though I do think it is a cause, just not the only or main one
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Why is comparing more countries than two meaningless?
If gun ownership was the primary cause then more data would prove that correlation.
However, is it not interesting that a country such as El Salvador can have less guns than us but the highest level of gun crime?
As with most things, there are going to be many causes. Some more than others. The whole "it is entirely about gun ownership" seems overly basic*.
I suspect that America's homicide rate not including guns would also be higher than ours.
* Though I do think it is a cause, just not the only or main one
( , Tue 18 Dec 2012, 22:17, Share, Reply)
The majority of US gun deaths are suicides.
And maybe there are less in the UK because it is a smaller population; maybe it is something cultural. Brazil has tighter gun laws, but higher gun-related deaths.
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And maybe there are less in the UK because it is a smaller population; maybe it is something cultural. Brazil has tighter gun laws, but higher gun-related deaths.
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I can only agree with with you in that if someone wants to top themselves seriously fucking me off by jumping in front of the underground might just do it
But I am grateful to live in a society where people don't have hand guns in their top draw by their bed, or an AK-47 locked in a cabinet, mental issues or not. Best i've got is a baseball behind my bed, and a very sharp Katana I would love never to use because actually killing another person tends to have repercussions your brain might not handle in the long term, and stuff like regretting the deed for the rest of your life.
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But I am grateful to live in a society where people don't have hand guns in their top draw by their bed, or an AK-47 locked in a cabinet, mental issues or not. Best i've got is a baseball behind my bed, and a very sharp Katana I would love never to use because actually killing another person tends to have repercussions your brain might not handle in the long term, and stuff like regretting the deed for the rest of your life.
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Do you not think we should
ban Katana ownership?
Our homicide rates are very stab-happy:
www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/Homicide/Globa_study_on_homicide_2011_web.pdf
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ban Katana ownership?
Our homicide rates are very stab-happy:
www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/Homicide/Globa_study_on_homicide_2011_web.pdf
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