To people who roll their eyes when they hear a so called 'conspiracy theory'
You do realise that you've been conditioned to think that way, dont you? To immediately disregard anything that doesn't conform with the official story as utter drivel spun by someone who's obviously a tin-foil hat wearing nutcase. Just a thought.
(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 10:52, 14 replies)

I can buy this to some degree
there's silly conspiracies - blood drinking lizards and reasonable (but different) interpretations of world events - and they get tarred with the same brush.
( rob, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 11:10, closed)

Perhaps all of the silly ones
Have purposely been started and spread by 'them', the desired effect being that all are tarred with the same brush and no one takes anything that doesn't conform with the official version of events (otherwise known as a conspiracy theory) seriously.

Now THERE'S a conspiracy theory!
(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 11:15, closed)

Who is doing that though?
It seems to me that no one is saying that all conspircay theories should be dismissed out of hand.

It's just that with 95% of them, a cursory read of the 'evidence' provided proves them to be utter horseshit.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 11:19, closed)

See above post

(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 11:39, closed)

I did.
I wish I hadn't bothered.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 11:43, closed)

Lol
They've got to you too then :P
(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 11:44, closed)

Hey now.
Let the man have his comforting, self-indulgent and faintly masturbatory fantasies of superiority.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:09, closed)

Finally, someone who understands
Thank you
(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:11, closed)

We don't
'immediately' discard the theories.

Some take seconds to dismiss, others you might have to think through.

If they make no sense from the beginning, there's no need for a long discussion.
(username failed moderation, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 11:24, closed)

Agreed
Such as the automatic derision which is levelled at any mention of mind control.

As I've mentioned in another thread about the MKULTRA programme of the CIA; it consumed a quarter to a third of their annual budget for about a decade and consisted of over 120 sub-programs in several countries and was only shut down (if indeed it was) when victims of their experiments took them to court.

Suggest that they may have actually gained something from it though and you're laughed at.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 12:43, closed)

Was that the scheme where the killed goats by staring at them?
Can't imagine why people don't take that seriously.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:00, closed)

The First Earth Battalion was indeed
one of the sub-programs under the umbrella of MKULTRA. If you think it odd that the CIA would give anything like that credence, much less throw money at it, you must bear in mind that they were hearing that the Russians were experimenting with telepathy as a means of tracking nuclear submarines.

One of the Russian experiments consisted of putting a litter of newborn rabbits on different subs and sending them out to sea and killing the rabbits at specific times to see if the mother rabbit could tell her young had been killed by wiring it up to heart and brain monitors.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:22, closed)

I think the problem is the phrase "mind control"
in that we've all seen the the silly sci-fi movies and know it means making programmable murder zombies that'll suddenly shoot someone on hearing a keyword.

Whereas MKULTRA seems to have be largely about making people so disorientated and confused that they'll fess up their secrets. Torture basically.*

*This is the theory I nabbed from Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine btw.
( rob, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:02, closed)

I dont' know if I posted this before
but this is a transcript of a lecture on the subject of the history of mind control up to and including project MKULTRA which makes mention of what the CIA were trying to discover.

www.tgorski.com/Mind%20Control/history_of_mind_control.htm

As you say, initially this research was conceived as advanced interrogation techniques but it wasn't long before people started thinking they could do something more with it, including the programmable murder zombie that acts upon a keyword.

At the very least this subject has given us three cracking Bourne films, so regardless of whether MKULTRA produced anything quite that useful or not it's given Hollywood some good ideas.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:16, closed)