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# Which probably tells you
how racist language is more 'taboo' than homophobic ones. I don't like either, but I've given up challenging the use of the word 'gay' to mean bad* - it's much less 'shocking', and so prevalent I can't be bothered any more.

* in the non-b3ta world, that is
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:28, archived)
# so those of us that can comfortably joke about it are a step ahead of the rest?
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:33, archived)
# Yes -
- so long as you're aware of the wider effects of the term, and are using it in a situation [like b3ta] where it's understood by just about everyone who sees it that it *is* ironic.

It sounds shitty, but these things do matter to, say, some guys under my care who would be utterly devastated by an incorrect usage of the term.

[edited to make better sense]
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:35, archived)
# i'm not exactly going to wander around tooting screaming nigger now am i?
yes, i said offensive things on b3ta....oooh....contraversy
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:38, archived)
# that's what I was saying
which is why I put the * in about not complaining about b3tan usage :)

edit: yes, sorry, it was unclear. I meant to say that "I don't like either apart from on b3ta, but..."
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:39, archived)