I remember my sister,when I was about nine and we first got a televison, saying 'Mum, mum, there's a gorilla talking on the telly' and it was George 'Trevor' Macdonald. Up to that point she had never seen a black person.
I think that for me, only ever knowing Solomon Singh (who was only ever, even in later years, teased because his name was, to our ears, 'sing') strange to think that anyone was considered anything other than a person.
My mother asked me about my new friend solomon and I described him as having brown hair and brown eyes.
It did not even occur to me to metion that he was the only dark child in the school. It is hard for me to understand racism, but a lot of that is chance.
Much like paedophiles, I find it hard not to feel sorry for racists in a way (although I abhor their actions). it is easy for me not to be unpleasant to persons who don't look like me, or to not fuck kids, because I have no urge to behave in these ways.
If I did hate black people / Jews / Inuits / the Welsh, or want to fuck children, then not being prejudiced (or not showing or acting on my prejudice) and not fucking kids might be hard.
I often think about this. If it was illegal for me to sleep with my wife and it was considered perverse by society then I might struggle to behave in a socially acceptable manner, but I am fortunate in that my tastes conform. I am not even gay!
It must be very difficult to spend one's whole life finding children sexually attractive and not being able to act on that.
Of course, it goes without saying that if anyone touched my girls I'd fucking kill them, but I am grateful that I am a hetrosexual liberal man, it makes things so much easier.
well, that was deeper than is necessary.
(I think that for me, only ever knowing Solomon Singh (who was only ever, even in later years, teased because his name was, to our ears, 'sing') strange to think that anyone was considered anything other than a person.
My mother asked me about my new friend solomon and I described him as having brown hair and brown eyes.
It did not even occur to me to metion that he was the only dark child in the school. It is hard for me to understand racism, but a lot of that is chance.
Much like paedophiles, I find it hard not to feel sorry for racists in a way (although I abhor their actions). it is easy for me not to be unpleasant to persons who don't look like me, or to not fuck kids, because I have no urge to behave in these ways.
If I did hate black people / Jews / Inuits / the Welsh, or want to fuck children, then not being prejudiced (or not showing or acting on my prejudice) and not fucking kids might be hard.
I often think about this. If it was illegal for me to sleep with my wife and it was considered perverse by society then I might struggle to behave in a socially acceptable manner, but I am fortunate in that my tastes conform. I am not even gay!
It must be very difficult to spend one's whole life finding children sexually attractive and not being able to act on that.
Of course, it goes without saying that if anyone touched my girls I'd fucking kill them, but I am grateful that I am a hetrosexual liberal man, it makes things so much easier.
well, that was deeper than is necessary.
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:19,
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not too deepand amazingly open minded of you.
Personally I have two mixed race children, and if anyone comes near them I'll kill em :|
You show a tolerance that belies your hamtouchingness. Don't feel guilty for conforming, feel comfortable in yourself.
(Personally I have two mixed race children, and if anyone comes near them I'll kill em :|
You show a tolerance that belies your hamtouchingness. Don't feel guilty for conforming, feel comfortable in yourself.
mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:26,
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A question which you need not answer (der! it is the intermawebs after all)Which way around? I have a friend who's father is black and who's mother was white and he also has white mother (and, I think eight children now the dirty bugger) and I fancy that it is probably easier to be a white man with a black (or, to be honest, non-white) woman than vice versa.
I don't know why, I just assume that racial and sexual prejudice are likely to go hand in hand among those whi have that sort of predeliction.
(I don't know why, I just assume that racial and sexual prejudice are likely to go hand in hand among those whi have that sort of predeliction.
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:47,
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it's not easy either wayI was chased by rudies and by skinheads back in the early days, we both were, for that matter.
( mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:50,
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Living in Exeter we have a lot of mixed race couples.I guess that, outside of the Indian / Pakistani communities there are so few ethnic groups that to remain within the same group would require interbreeding before too long.
Things are a lot better here than elsewhere and I think that things are getting better everywhere, but it is odd to think that you could get attacked at any time just for living your life.
I get shit occassionaly (often really) off the chavs for having long hair and a beard but, whilst I have had knives pulled on me on the way home from work and stuff, I could, when it comes down to it, cut my fucking hair.
As I say, it is relatively easy for me, I am white with white children and a white wife and a job and no disabilities and my hair isn't ginger except in a few spots around the sides of my moustache.
(Things are a lot better here than elsewhere and I think that things are getting better everywhere, but it is odd to think that you could get attacked at any time just for living your life.
I get shit occassionaly (often really) off the chavs for having long hair and a beard but, whilst I have had knives pulled on me on the way home from work and stuff, I could, when it comes down to it, cut my fucking hair.
As I say, it is relatively easy for me, I am white with white children and a white wife and a job and no disabilities and my hair isn't ginger except in a few spots around the sides of my moustache.
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:55,
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cunt them in the fuckthat's what I say. *eats a haslet sandwich*
( mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:00,
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You sick fuck.There are limits you know.
There is a line.
Haslet is well on the other side of it.
(There is a line.
Haslet is well on the other side of it.
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:10,
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oh, but it's the finest of all suspicious pork productsmmmm, haslet.
( mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:12,
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Ahem?Chitterlin?
( Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:13,
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What an annoyingly inappropriate advert.*downloads adblock*
*installs*
[CTRL]+[SHIFT]+[B]
*continues reading*
A very good article and exactly what I meant.
It is easy for me not to fuck children, but it isn't easy for paedophiles. That must be one hell of a burden.
"The word paedophile does no more than describe a sexual orientation, it's not a behaviour or an action. The action is abuse."
May I ask why you had such an article so readily to hand? It suggests an interest in the subject which is more than passing. (i.e. you might be a professional, rather than a paedophile).
(*installs*
[CTRL]+[SHIFT]+[B]
*continues reading*
A very good article and exactly what I meant.
It is easy for me not to fuck children, but it isn't easy for paedophiles. That must be one hell of a burden.
"The word paedophile does no more than describe a sexual orientation, it's not a behaviour or an action. The action is abuse."
May I ask why you had such an article so readily to hand? It suggests an interest in the subject which is more than passing. (i.e. you might be a professional, rather than a paedophile).
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:33,
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I'm glad he didit shows that at least someone has more than 1 brain cell active when considering the matter.
( mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:48,
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Sadly not. I remembered the article from another message board,probably a BBC one, where the discussion was about Gary Glitter.
(
Bingowings 2011 Businessman of the Year (Watford Branch),
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:50,
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I bet hebums the fuck out of the family dog though
See? Having read only half of that, I can safely say that if he'd have gorn orf and done himself in like he ort to have done, I've forgotten my point. Bloody alcohol.
(See? Having read only half of that, I can safely say that if he'd have gorn orf and done himself in like he ort to have done, I've forgotten my point. Bloody alcohol.
baw__bag contains traces of nuts on,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:41,
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Hmm.I have huge desires to jump when passing over water (eg the Forth / severn / Tay bridges) or near cliffs.
That doesn't make me suicidal.
Equally, just because it contained imagery of misery and death does not make that a good analogy.
I appologise.
(That doesn't make me suicidal.
Equally, just because it contained imagery of misery and death does not make that a good analogy.
I appologise.
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:49,
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Fear not!I tend to just say mad things in a hope to raise a chuckle. there are very few subjects about which I'll ever make a serious comment. If I were to think about it seriously i'd probably break my brain. I never talk seriously about stuff i don't understand or have never experienced.... I cant help having a crack at a poor taste joke though hehehe
Edit: Incidentally, I get that when in high places too.... i heard it described once.... vertigo isnt a fear of falling, it's a fear of jumping. strange thing, our brains.
(Edit: Incidentally, I get that when in high places too.... i heard it described once.... vertigo isnt a fear of falling, it's a fear of jumping. strange thing, our brains.
baw__bag contains traces of nuts on,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:57,
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No.Too late.
I am offended now.
I'm telling your mum.
(I am offended now.
I'm telling your mum.
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:12,
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I find the wordoffended offensive to offensive people.
( baw__bag contains traces of nuts on,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:17,
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that wasvery deep indeed! I on the other hand have no sympathy for or understanding of racists/bigots or the like. Oddly, I don't think I ever met a black/brown person before the age of about 25, but I still never thought there to be anything different between them and myself. This despite growing up in the NF capital of the country at the time. But being a gayer, I do know a little of what it is like to fear discrimination.
(
JD if you please? Save The Apostrophes,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:34,
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it's what I doespecially to gay b3ta people
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mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:45,
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Eugh!A gayer?
*shuns* ;)
(*shuns* ;)
Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:40,
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*Bums embassy* Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 1:56,
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at lasta nice warm night!
*Night all*
(*Night all*
JD if you please? Save The Apostrophes,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:02,
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Noghty night.sleep well
( Lord Manley of Ven www.justgiving.com/manley - please?,
Sat 4 Mar 2006, 2:06,
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