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# Haha.
Now that's a plan. Mine just falls off when I untie it :(
(, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 15:55, archived)
# Your dress shirt
Should have a little loop at the back of the collar which you put it trough so you don't lose it when you untie it (actually it's really to stop it riding up at the back, but it works).

PS clip on and sneaky second tie is cheating - JB moment is the payoff for learning to tie it properly!
(, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 16:20, archived)
# No loop on mine.
I think I cheaped out on the shirt.
(, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 16:36, archived)