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# I think you actually make a valid point about science
as you can see, using mathematics to explain something which is allready expressed in mathematics just digs us further and further away from reality. likewise, we can move backward through the same fractal explaining abstract concepts using everyday objects and closer and closer to real.

It is all inside itself and outside itself simultaneously.

Narim hassein explains this in his 'fractal universe' lectures; here
Though, he's not a scientist.
(, Sun 3 Jan 2010, 15:21, archived)
# Oh god, not him again.
As far as I can tell he's just doing his best to misunderstand and jam together random bits of science he's read. Probably while stoned.

Now for a REAL fractal universe theory check out Laurent Nottale and his "Scale Relativity".
(, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:05, archived)