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# it's funny
there are plenty of bad laws which have been promised a repeal by whoever gets in (assuming Labour don't) - but this one appears to be an all-party stitch-up

watching it last night - there were only 40 (of 643) MPs there, of which only 10 stuck around - was like watching the ID Cards bill going through; a shite, ineffectual debate by a tiny amount of MPs, an even smaller amount of whom actually had some understanding of what it was they were discussing

(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:22, archived)
# I thought the Libs had oppossed it
and ID cards as well (as a cost cutting measure admittedly)
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:31, archived)
# there's nothing wrong with ID cards
most of europe has them and they don't seem to be in any way oppressive. however, because the media stirred up some shit about it being a way of big brother looking at your cock when you're asleep, they didn't happen.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:35, archived)
# I don't believe in ID
I'd like an evolution card.
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:36, archived)
# I just want a card with a photo of me
and "I AM NOT AN ANIMAL" written in comic sans
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:38, archived)
# there must be something wrong with them
because nobody wants em
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:38, archived)
# I don't mind having one really
I just don't want to pay for it
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:39, archived)
# ^this^
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 15:47, archived)
# I wouldn't mind one and I don't see why people are against them.
I have no photo ID other than my passport. How am I supposed to prove that I'm not Johnny Foreigner with a bomb in my backpack?

(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:43, archived)
# use your passport
unless you want to pay another £30 for something that will let you travel to fewer places than your passport
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:46, archived)
# It's not carrying a card that's the problem,
it's the fucking database that goes with it.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:45, archived)
# possibly
would most of the details not be on some other database somewhere anyway? like the passport office or driving licence thingymajig?
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:51, archived)
# not really
they don't (generally) have your fingerprints or a complete history of your past addresses, for example - which you;re required to give for an ID card
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:59, archived)
# i see
well, I don't understand why they think that would be a good plan. I don't believe the eu id cards have such nonsense on them.

I'm for ID cards, but don't see the need for that other info, other than being nosey and cheeky.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 15:13, archived)
# aye
I'm not too bothered about the cards

just don't see the need for all this extra info which is just going to get lost, hacked or sold

and if someone in the future manages to falsify my fingerprints then I'm fucked, cos I can't get new fingerprints

I think I want to go and live on Mars
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 15:18, archived)
# I'm just going to build an android of myself
then disappear, leaving him in my place, so nobody feels sad.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 15:30, archived)
# My mate Sid had his ID nicked
/He's now just called 'S'
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:51, archived)
# yer, I think they do oppose it
to the extent there was only one Lib Dem MP in the chamber last night

everyone (pretty much) bar Labour opposed the ID Cards Bill - but the debate on it was pathetic; tiny amount in the chamber 'debating' it but when the vote was called the lobbies filled up with MPs who'd just been in the bar waiting to vote
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:35, archived)
# the disdain that parliament (not just the current government)
has for experts really disgusts me. The sacking of Prof. Nutt for telling the truth made me extremely angry, as he is a proven expert in the subject he was speaking of and a brilliant scientist. However, because some completely unqualified CUNT decides it's not the truth that matters, but what he/the media/the public/the church think, then that makes me want to rampage.

Bad politicians pander to majority opinion, good politicians change it. We have a whole host of pandering cowards. Fuck the lot of them.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:31, archived)
# At least they didn't do a Dr. Kelly on him
so he should be grateful for that.
(I helped save b3ta! Tribs 🦇 ↓ dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥʇ ↓🦇, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:43, archived)
# they're trialling a new system which involves less clandestine murder
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 14:45, archived)