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Tb2571989 says Bad Management isn't just a great name for a heavy metal band - what kind of rubbish work practices have you had to put up with?

(, Thu 10 Jun 2010, 10:53)
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Errr
Lotus Notes
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 10:11, 21 replies)
Though I usually hate 'nuff said posts
this one has the ring of authenticity
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 10:13, closed)
Yeah
I'll go along with that.

Notes is awful.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 10:24, closed)


(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 14:07, closed)
Groan
Agreed. Our management is currently 'struggling' with the decision of whether to ditch Notes or accept the upgrade to the 8.5 version. So far the argument has been made based on cost and impact to end users. But I think they need to look at the IBM strategy for Notes, which is awful. They seem to see it as its own little operating system, sitting inside Windows. And the resource requiremnts for the client are bonkers. It's a no-brainer decision for me. Sure it will cost us money to make the transition, but it will save us money in the long run, given our strategy for the rest of the desktop is Microsoft. Daft.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 10:34, closed)
We've had the "upgrade" to 8.5
The interface is even worse than it was.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 10:48, closed)
Nope.
I don't believe that is possible.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:37, closed)
It is
fucking awful. I never thought I'd pine for email software, but when they took away my Outlook, I did.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 10:45, closed)
I know that Microsoft
to lotus users is the devil re-incarnate but why don't you upgrade to Exchange 2010, is it because you have too many critical apps integrated with lotus? Message me if you need any help with migrations.

*shameless plug* :\
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:04, closed)
Microsoft Mong
get back under your stone... your msce is worthless :OP

Edit: I'm a self confessed mong but no MCSE
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:17, closed)
hehe im the mong
not one to pick up on spelling mistakes but Microsfot...please. Apologies if there was some irony there.

Personally I prefer IBM in general but their e-mail is DTM, but i would prefer to be doing MS migrations from lotus than vice versa. I have seen your edit and want to take the edge off my post. I am a MS mong but sadly not through choice, have to go where the money is. MS have destroyed notes over the years :(
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:25, closed)
Not my choice
Work email thingie, unfortunately.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:31, closed)
Was this you?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Lotus_Notes

(top right)
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:00, closed)
Sadly, no.

(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:13, closed)
I hate notes
Notes vs Exchange ... no competition but IBM vs Microsoft, gotta be IBM if only for the support of Open Source Geeks
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:16, closed)
balls on accurate
there idea to make their development tools open source was a master stroke, let the geeks inherit the work ;)
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:46, closed)
Don't disagree with that
but it doesn't change the overall situation for me. Take away mail and Domino is just another application development platform competing with all the others. And I don't think it will ever match applicatoins built on relational databases.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 12:15, closed)
Used to use it as a very early form of wiki
more years ago than I am capable of remembering comfortably, for which it was great.

Sucks donkey balls at email, though.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:18, closed)
Agreed
Been forced to use it for 10 years
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:35, closed)
I'm lucky that I don't support it
But it is terrible. Groupwise on the other hand is far, far worse...
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:58, closed)
Get the fuck outta here.
Lotus Notes is a truly wonderful piece of software engineering, with more bells and whistles, ok not all integrated or user friendly, than you could shake a stick at.

But give it another 15 years, and when it's finished, I assure you it will be ace.

I don't work for IBM by the way.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 12:44, closed)
I feel your pain
We're still languishing on version 6.5.4.

Fun times believe me.
(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 15:28, closed)

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