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The Hedgehog From Hell says: "I shared a house in England with a couple of Germans in 1999. I was watching Star Trek: Deep Space 9 on BBC2. One came into the room and saw Jadzia Dax on the screen and said 'Oh! Is she still alive? You're really far behind in this country.' What's been ruined for you, and how? Apart from QOTW, obviously"

(, Thu 6 Jun 2013, 13:29)
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DS9 is a rancid pile of donkey's arse custard
Voyager shits all over that steaming logpile
(, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 16:01, 3 replies)
I'm with you
I couldn't take Sisco seriously because of his habit of being incredibly camp and defensive at least once per show. He kept fluttering his eyelashes and rolling his eyes!

OTOH, Janeway's recurring wryly-raised-eyebrow/mumsy smile was genius and we looked forward to it every week.

The best show was whatever had 7 of 9 in it
(, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 18:05, closed)
I love it when people argue about who was the best Star Wars.

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(, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 20:17, closed)
Seven of Nine was the later seasons of Voyager
Season 4 I think, she replaced the irredeemably irritating three-year-old Kes.

Having watched a few episodes of DS9 recently, I think Sisko is as good a 'captain' as Picard, except he's more firey. But he still sticks to the rules whilst being completely awesome.

Picard, Sisko and all of their crew members are well-developed, sympathetic characters. Everyone on Voyager is ridiculous, two-dimensional and boring.
(, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 23:35, closed)
shit i'd forgotten about Kes
and those aliens they kept meeting that were all ripoffs of Middenface McNulty

TBH I liked all of the STs, even Enterprise.

And the Jem Hadar were the best baddies. I love The Borg, but they just didn't do sarcasm.

There's an art deco hotel in Rejkyavik called The Borg

Sisko was a big hammy flake too often though. He was always either Rambo or his own mother
(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 16:30, closed)
janeway was often funny
in a quite cynical way. i liked that. sisko annoyed the fuck out of me. don't even get me started on the o'briens.
(, Tue 11 Jun 2013, 14:42, closed)
You are incorrect
Voyager is far too whimsical and the characters are either completely dull or irritatingly 'comedic' (Neelix being the worst offender).

Next Gen and DS9 have genuinely funny moments that are entirely derived from the believable characters being put in appropriate situations. They also both have intriguing plots that are resolved in interesting yet logical ways (Wesley Crusher deus ex machinas notwithstanding).

I wish Voyager was good, but it just isn't. The whole premise with them unable to contact the rest of humanity limits the scope of it far too much. It's all stupid fucking action sequences and it doesn't make you care what happens.

TNG and DS9 make you think about how good people could be if they set aside their irrelevant differences, Voyager makes you wish they'd all just fuck off.
(, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 23:32, closed)
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh my.... hahahaahhahahaah
" believable characters" I can barely stand for laughing "being put in appropriate situations." wow, just wow.
Star Trek is a whimsical kids TV program -- I can't believe that a grown adult could take it seriously enough to even post this.
(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 0:03, closed)
Voyager is the only one you could watch?
That's also the only one that's a whimsical kids' show.

Is your username a Nine Inch Nails reference?
(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 1:29, closed)
Yes, they're all whimsical kids shows.
I just found Voyager was less up its own arse than the rest so was watchable.
(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 10:08, closed)
You need to re-read what you have posted here.
Then ask yourself some very serious questions about yourself and your life - and at which point it took such a horrendous wrong turn.


Then kill yourself.
(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 8:33, closed)
I'm pretty content with my life
And watching Star Trek makes me happy and that's nothing to be ashamed of.

I only wear my uniform two or three times a week, and only in public for my monthly shop. I don't even speak Klingon unless the cashier is a particularly attractive girl that I want to impress.
(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 16:34, closed)
I'm going to out myself and agree with this,
as it's a pretty good analysis of why TNG and DS9 were good shows, and Voyager wasn't.
(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 10:07, closed)
I too am in agreement with your sentiment Ms. Smash.

(, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 8:48, closed)

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