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# Wow. And they've even moved New York to a medium to low density land use model, with a good proportion of green space included.
Good to see such progressive town planning in action.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 4 Oct 2012, 13:56, archived)
# That's what New York bay looks like.
(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Thu 4 Oct 2012, 14:01, archived)
# *googles*
Oh wow so it is. Guess I'm used to seeing it with the big dramatic Manhattan skyline in back.

Pardon my ignorant world view, American b3tans...
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 4 Oct 2012, 14:05, archived)
# I wanted to avoid the stereo type image and the buildings would have been a compositional nightmare.
(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Thu 4 Oct 2012, 14:11, archived)
# That's right,
and the apes live in NJ!
(Jimbojames Wishing every day could be like today, Thu 4 Oct 2012, 14:11, archived)