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# They practice what they preach...



/edit: this was supposed to be a simple comment based on my perception of the current state of the UKIP. Based on...

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It's interesting that one of it's members thinks he is more important than everyone else and should be in charge... a bit like Germany really.

...anyway, there's a bunch of posts that follow and some are (un?)expectedly naïve/barmy/paranoid/un-fluffy or just plain wrong.
 
(I helped save b3ta! DaveBr tes noisivelet ruoy tsujda ton od, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:23, archived)
# good point well made

(I helped save b3ta! Attila the Bun is not in a right cunt of a mood, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:24, archived)
# It...
...struck me that they were a microcosm of the problems facing European union. Two possibilities... on one hand they could be effective if united, on the the other, self-interest can undermine them.
(I helped save b3ta! DaveBr tes noisivelet ruoy tsujda ton od, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:31, archived)
# Not possible at the moment
We're in the devolution swing in History


I couldn't believe that they are considering giving the NE its own "parliment"

more money being wasted on more useless self serving wankers
(I helped save b3ta! Attila the Bun is not in a right cunt of a mood, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:38, archived)
# Luckily it looks like
there's not enough public support for it to happen.

Which isn't suprising, considering the whole regionalist thing is a Scottish/Welsh attempt to break up England and counteract the influence we have on national politics through having 10 times more people then they do
(I helped save b3ta! Shrub Rocketeer is a twisted emotional husk, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:44, archived)
# Nah,
The Welsh neer wanted an assembly. Less than half of the country voted, and only 53% of those that did vote said yes.

I did hear tell that it was largely a europe-driven initiative: apparrently the UK as one unit had too much voting power in the E.U., so we've been subdivided into smaller units with much less power.

The other theory is that it was just to stop the welsh from whining "..but the scots got one, why can't we?".

Speaking as a welshman, the Assembly is a load of bollocks.
(Not very much gravitas at all, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 23:03, archived)
# Fantastic idea
Take it to its logical extreme and I'll have my own parliament. Sounds good to me.
(I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Went to Iceland. It rained., Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:47, archived)
# woo
houpla to political shoppings!
(I helped save b3ta! Lempraadon, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:25, archived)
# I they ever win an election
I am going to laugh and laugh

Then I will storm parliment during prime ministers question time and kill them all
(Willboy:, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:26, archived)
#
seconded
(UltimateStoat thanks you for helping him help you help us all, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:34, archived)
# careful they don't sue you for that.
Twats.
(I helped save b3ta! Shrub Rocketeer is a twisted emotional husk, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:26, archived)
# I hope they dont...
...I was only hoping to make a fair (if silly) comment.
(I helped save b3ta! DaveBr tes noisivelet ruoy tsujda ton od, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:34, archived)
# Twas a reference to
this - hope it all gets resolved soon so that the twat threatening to sue on behalf of Killroy can get back to his important task of saving the country by stealing metric road signs.
(I helped save b3ta! Shrub Rocketeer is a twisted emotional husk, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:38, archived)
# I think I'm safe then

(I helped save b3ta! DaveBr tes noisivelet ruoy tsujda ton od, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:41, archived)
#
you do know who the site belongs to, right?
cough *b3tan*
(I helped save b3ta! sosumi, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 23:01, archived)
# I semi-agree
with the UKIP in that we should stop 'open-doors' immigration and stop sucking up to the Americans and Europe, but the whole racism element is what puts me off them. If they stopped being a bunch of wankers they'd have my support.

Still, if Bush gets another 4 years, we want rid of Blair, definately.
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:27, archived)
# and have who instead?
Howard?
Yeah great!
(I helped save b3ta! Mushroom, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:29, archived)
# I'll vote
for whoever won't send my mates off to die for Bush's family vendettas.
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:31, archived)
# the tories most likely would though
just they'd make you unemployed too ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Mushroom, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:34, archived)
# That's the problem with
British politics, though.

Blair will send us off to die, Howard will send us off to die slightly poorer than we would be under Blair, the Lib Dems are far too wet to be even considered and parties like the BNP and UKIP are screaming racists itching for a lynching.

There are no real alternatives to Blair, but should one emerge, they'll get my vote... so, who here wants to form the B3ta Party?
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:37, archived)
# seconded

(UltimateStoat thanks you for helping him help you help us all, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:38, archived)
# I wonder what the B3tan manifesto would look like
1. Fez wearing compulsory
2. Erm...
3. Thassit

That'd get my vote


(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot watches through the railings as they play, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:42, archived)
# Kittins for all
all for kittins.
(I helped save b3ta! Six nicks a greeking fiiiiiive onion rings, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:44, archived)
#
4. ...oh yeah AND NO FUCKIN PEAROASTs
(UltimateStoat thanks you for helping him help you help us all, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:45, archived)
# So none of this, then?

(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:47, archived)
# nope
none
not a sausage
(UltimateStoat thanks you for helping him help you help us all, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:50, archived)
# Oh, can I be the treasurer?
/is both dishonest and skint
(I helped save b3ta! FoldsFive Gold Rings, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:44, archived)
# A dishonest treasurer?
surely not.

you're hired.
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:48, archived)
# so
its sorted then everyones voting monster raving looney party

/edit unless of course someone forms a B3ta party
*tips hat to Prince
(UltimateStoat thanks you for helping him help you help us all, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:37, archived)
# The problem with extremist political parties
is that they tend to say things in a reasonable manner that you can't really argue with... Jean Marie le Pen has been making a living from this in France for 40 years...
(I helped save b3ta! Gizmo.mp3 does not exist, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:30, archived)
# Ah, but they don't want us to stop sucking up to the Americans
in fact, they'd have us in NAFTA the second we left the EU. Which is one of the reasons why they disgust me so much- they wrap themselves in the flag and go on about British independence while simultaneously wanting to make us a wholly owned subsiduary of the Americans.

/little bit of politics
(I helped save b3ta! Shrub Rocketeer is a twisted emotional husk, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:31, archived)
# Meh,
well Blair's pretty much turned us into the 53rd State of America anyway, fantastical twunt that he is.
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:32, archived)
# we don't have 'open-doors' immigration
the fact that an orange twat says it doesn't make it so
(I helped save b3ta! eclectech, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:32, archived)
# Well I like the US's
immigration policy - either get a doctorate or pay enough money to cover you and your family, forever. If you don't have that, you don't get in. Simple.
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:35, archived)
# i'd prefer my government...
to display a little compassion for fellow human beings
(I helped save b3ta! eclectech, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:38, archived)
# I'd prefer mine
to look after the people who are already here, and bollocks to the rest of the world - their job is to make sure we're alright, not anyone else. That's their problem - unless they pay handsomely.
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:39, archived)
# how very callous
in particular when so many problems worldwide result, at least in part, from our interference and domination over many years...

i do believe i'll stop this conversation here though... there doesn't appear to be much point in continuing...
(I helped save b3ta! eclectech, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:42, archived)
# I just don't see
what relevance people on the other side of the world have to the average person in Britain - the person the government should be most concerned about.

Meh, agree to disagree.

/politics
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:45, archived)
# well..
somebody must have some nukes
i reckon thatd have quite an effect
(UltimateStoat thanks you for helping him help you help us all, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:49, archived)
# who told you that?
I can assure you that is not the way it is. US imigration policy is far from perfect, but it's not what you said.
(I helped save b3ta! sosumi, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:53, archived)
# Well it's somebody's...
and if it's not, it's mine, and you can't have it. nerr.
(I helped save b3ta! Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 23:09, archived)
# Can you do one that says
"UKIP: A big bunch of cunts"?
(I helped save b3ta! Scaryduck - twitter.com/duckorange, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:42, archived)
# I'm...
...sure they're normally very nice. But when they get together they just don't get along...
(I helped save b3ta! DaveBr tes noisivelet ruoy tsujda ton od, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:45, archived)