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# i like it ending like that
but our definitions of marbles are different
(, Wed 26 Jul 2006, 12:16, archived)
# My definition of marbles is territory.
Throughout the late 19th century the jewish population in Western Palestine grew greatly (there had always been a massive majority jewish population in Jerusalem) and the local arab population didn't much like it. Sporadic fighting broke out. The British wanted to wash their hands of the land, so the UN came up with the 1947 Partition Plan and offered to divide up the country into two states. One for arabs and one for jews. The jews accepted and the arab nations rejected it. So Israel was formed, and Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iran all invaded Israel. A lot of the arab population fled the approaching armies, hoping to return home when the war was over and the arab nations had won. But Israel won. From 1948 until 1967, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank were occupied by Egypt and Jordan respectively. They didn't bother giving the land to the Palestinians. Then in 1967, the arab countries went to war with Israel again, and Israel won again, capturing the Gaza Strip and the West Bank from Egypt and Jordan. This land was considered "hostage" land that Israel would return to the arabs in return for lasting peace. The arabs replied by saying that they would never negotiate. Many times since then Israel has attempted to manage a two-state solution - most recently in 2001 when they offered 97% of the Gaza Strip and West Jerusalem to the Palestinians in return for peace. Arafat turned it down.

Obviously, it's more fun if you're talking about marbles.
(, Wed 26 Jul 2006, 12:30, archived)
# I realised. Mine was soldiers/prisoners.

I once had my arm very badly broken over a game of marbles.
(, Wed 26 Jul 2006, 12:41, archived)
# Marbles lost somewhere
Expansion, accompanied by ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population, has been Israeli government policy, since 1948 when 300,000 Palestinians were forced from their homes and 13,000 were killed in the Nakba (catastrophe). Israel occupied 78% of Palestine and razed to the ground over 500 Palestinian villages. General Moshe Dayan, noted: "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

After the 1967 six day war, when Israel occupied the remaining 22% of historic Palestine, there was strong international pressure on Israel to withdraw. Many Israelis felt that continued occupation would be disastrous for Israel's future security. However, successive Israeli governments, Labour and Likud, have pursued a policy of progressive colonization of the area.

In the seven years following the peace accords signed in Oslo in 1993 (the "peace process") Israel doubled the population of settlers from around 200,000 to over 400,000 in the West Bank. As the newly created Palestinian Authority assumed administrative control in Palestinian towns after Oslo, Israel constructed major "bypass roads" to link the settlements to Israel while isolating the PA- administered areas from each other. Access to these large modern highways - and large swathes of land on either side of them - is prohibited for Palestinians. For every 100 km of bypass road, Israel confiscates about 10,000 dunums (2,500 acres) of Palestinian land, destroying whatever homes or trees happen to be in the way.
(, Sun 30 Jul 2006, 0:55, archived)
# Nice rebuttal sir.
Well said.
(, Sun 30 Jul 2006, 17:21, archived)