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yeah but surely he should have been clued into the fact that we were fighting against him

and yes, churchill himself wasn't exactly 'fond' of france

but he was probably dolally at this point anyway so history was always going to be what it was

and bell ringing.. well

a power station every week
2 thirds of the worlds cranes
closed down, dissasembled factories and plant transported, rebuilt, copied.

you tell me, what's going to happen :D

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discomeats This canoe, Sun 25 May 2008, 0:51, archived)

To play DA again,

the big mistake that Hitler made was invading Poland in Operation Sealion. That forced our hand....

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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sun 25 May 2008, 0:58, archived)

they wanted their bit of land back did they not

it's all crap at the end of the day

fuckers making demands and getting little people to die for them

what's changed

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discomeats This canoe, Sun 25 May 2008, 0:59, archived)

Maybe,

I wont get into that, but that was the mistake that Hitler made. We left him alone for a while, but as soon as he invaded Poland, we had to act as a result of a long standing treaty that we had with them. And to be fair, Hitler destroyed that country and they have only really recovered in the last 15 years....

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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sun 25 May 2008, 1:05, archived)

They only recovered in the last 4 years by moving Poland to

Hammersmith.

/rant ( having said that I'm pleased Magda came but the less said about that the better )

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Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 25 May 2008, 1:11, archived)

There is a massive debate and discussion to

be had over this and I don't have the space or balls to give you history lessons on b3ta, they'd kill me ;)

I do like to discuss this stuff though. I'm fascinated by all military campaigns and have studied some a great deal.

but before the war Hitler was certainly a man to be admired in his political rise. There has been no-one to match him since.

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Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 25 May 2008, 1:05, archived)

I agree,

I dont think b3ta is a place for political discuusion in any depth really :)

But that does go back to my original point and belief that Hitler is and was the greatest politician that ever lived!

Yet I will state, as I always will have to, that he was a complete cunt with his abilities as a politician!

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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sun 25 May 2008, 1:08, archived)

it's not the history itself, it's what you learn from it

and I don't need a lesson in that, being a nobody in the scheme of things means I'm not the one that needs to learn it

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discomeats This canoe, Sun 25 May 2008, 1:12, archived)

Of course and nobody is nobody.

The whole point of stories are so that people can spread knowledge so everyone counts. I meant that I perceived you might have a couple of misconceptions about Hitler, his periods of sanity and those of brain wasting and as much as I'd like to get into that b3ta is not quite the place and besides we have run out of page.
We should invade someone's blog and get into it another time.

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Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 25 May 2008, 1:18, archived)

there's plenty of germans that'll say

"I met him, and I know he was a good man"

that's their perception, and it was probably right when they met him, but then perception is everything.

What's good, true and right is a matter of context, if they'd won, everything they did, would have been 'right'.

and they'd have ran their own warcrimes trials

perspective is fun :D
sadly it always degenerates into the arse/opinion ratio which of course, is 1

Think we should just invade someone's blog anyway, that'll teach the twats with their crappy blog :D

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discomeats This canoe, Sun 25 May 2008, 1:28, archived)