I use Cider
Poor mans Black Velvet.
Except I'm not poor, just an alky !
( The Mighty Gusset Has updated his profile, but only a little bit !, Thu 19 Jun 2008, 12:53, archived)

I have trouble bringing myself around to the idea
of drinking Cider, but I can see your point... so please do up your fly :)
( Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 19 Jun 2008, 12:56, archived)