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# So you're going to argue and tell people to shut the fuck up
but not back it up and then claim you want everyone to get along?

Fuck off back to the Daily Mail.
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:17, archived)
# I'd like to think this was a discussion. Apparently not.
What do you want me to prove then?
(I helped save b3ta! Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:20, archived)
# The thing myself and Panasonic have asked you to prove at least twice
that 'England is officially/legally a Christian country'
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:22, archived)
# Have a look at the flag of England.
Tell me what you see.

Fine, England doesn't have as high a percentage of Christians (or if you really prefer - C of E) as it used to. It does, however, according to the latest census, still have a very high amount that still affiliate themselves with it.

www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/commentaries/ethnicity.asp

That shows you current statistics, which I'm sure you would agree, is still quite high.

There is little doubt, though if you really want, it is provable, that England's laws are based around (original) Christian beliefs.
(I helped save b3ta! Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:30, archived)
#
High(ish) CoE membership does NOT make for an officially or legally Christian country. Try again.
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:31, archived)
# So now you're pulling me up on terminology,
instead of actually getting what I was saying?

In at least my eyes, ~71% of the population makes that country a Christian country.
That and the monarch being Christian, and she is (theoretically at least) the law setter (though she does so through her parliament).
(I helped save b3ta! Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:35, archived)
# When you say 'officially' or 'legally' I do expect you to stand by it, yes
because y'see, the world doesn't opperate via your eyes. Also, the queen is not the 'law setter' and has not been since the deposition of Charles I. Also, once again, you are trying to modify your stance. And again, we come to the argument that the term 'Christian' is basically meaningless as one sect of 'Christians' does not follow the ideals of the other. As I said, the largest religion accounts for at best 22% of the nation.
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# Fine.
We'll agree to disagree.

Hug? :P
(I helped save b3ta! Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:41, archived)
# I already disagree
so I'll pass on formality, thanks
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:43, archived)
# Grumpy.
*Hugs anyway*

Opinions! Who'd have 'em.

I don't know why I get like that at times. I'm just sick of both sides having to shove opposing opinions in their faces.
(I helped save b3ta! Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:47, archived)
# the flag of England?
Just how ill educated are you? I see the red cross. This was the standard brought over from the arms of Geoffrey of Aquitaine when he came to England to be monarch. It is not a religios symbol despite the fact that it later appeared on the arms of England's catholic murderers when they went to the middle east on their 'crusades' ( which was actually a land grab for the second sons of minor nobles who were having a hard time being anything under the laws of succession of the day. A fact many choose to overlook ).
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:40, archived)
# I stand corrected.
I wasn't aware of that.
(I helped save b3ta! Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:43, archived)
# other way round
I think people realised it was a generally a really shit idea to go around killing people long before Jesus did or didn't roam the earth. Therefore i would suggest that what you call Christian Beliefs were based around common laws that have been around since we evolved into sentients beings (some of us are still undergoing the change).
(Cock Piss Partridge Couldn't give a shit who Virgilio Anderson is., Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:52, archived)
# I'm not necessarily talking about killing people.
That's obviously the first thing you think of though when you think of laws.

Take for example:
It was illegal to be Gay until fairly recently.
It was illegal to have sex outside of marriage.
It is illegal to have multiple wives.

Mainly, they seem revolve around sex, which is interesting.

There's many that were likely to not have been around prior to Jesus' possible existence.
(I helped save b3ta! Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Tue 21 Oct 2008, 16:56, archived)