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# Neither.
(I helped save b3ta! monkdagola but how do you TURN a phrase?, Fri 23 Oct 2009, 0:46, archived)
# Upper.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Fri 23 Oct 2009, 0:48, archived)
# i'm not going to say downer
as that would have sexual connotations that would leave me wide open to humourus remarks
(polished turd 404 pixels wide, Fri 23 Oct 2009, 0:50, archived)