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This is a link post So, the Met are issuing 9mm hollow points to their firearms squads now...
Seems a tad OTT to me, but what do I know?
 (I helped save b3ta! Kerrisis There's someone in my head, but it's not me., Thu 12 May 2011, 0:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not sure what you mean
If you've got to the point where you're shooting a gun at a criminal, chances are things have already got a bit OTT. At least they'll be effective.
 (I helped save b3ta! Sheriff John Bunnell https://twitter.com/thewonderfulgam, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post If that's an argument at all, its for disarming the police completely
My point is that, if the police are in a situation where they have to fire their weapons, 9/10 they're intending to kill that person. If they don't want to kill the person they'll use the wide variety of non-lethal weapons they have- tasers, attack dogs, bean bag rounds, baton rounds, tear gas etc.

You can't say you want to give the police lethal force and then say "but you can't use those bullets, you might kill them".
 (I helped save b3ta! Sheriff John Bunnell https://twitter.com/thewonderfulgam, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post FMJ bullets leave an exit wound, which is generally a lot more horrific than an entry wound
Hollowpoints not only have more stopping power but also 'tumble' and stay lodged in the flesh.

FMJ's are really quite barbaric and outdated. The only reason the military don't use them is because of a stupid peace treaty dating back to WWI that prevents them from making a more informed contemporary choice.
 (I helped save b3ta! Lord Keeps meaning to procrastinate., Thu 12 May 2011, 10:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think the point is;
There may be something / someone *behind* the exit wound that you don't want to hit. These bullets would eliminate that risk.
 (I helped save b3ta! IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Thu 12 May 2011, 11:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post "Hollow point bullets are prohibited to the public"
Errm No, they're not.
High standard of reporting as usual.

If they REALLY want to stop someone they should use Glaser safety slugs.

Google it
 (Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post They contradict themselves in the article by saying deer hunters use them
Unless they're army deer hunters....
 (I helped save b3ta! Sheriff John Bunnell https://twitter.com/thewonderfulgam, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post mainstream media ill-informed on firearms?
what next?
 (I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post yeh
ott, but that headline made me laugh, if only because it's so Daily Mail
 (cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Thu 12 May 2011, 0:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post "He's getting away, guv!"
'Quick, use the death bullets!'

What is this shit?
 (Frozen_Banana Shaved against the grain; thoroughly unrewarding., Thu 12 May 2011, 0:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post They would be better off giving them some .44 magnums and hollow points
Might breed a load of dirty harry clones but at least it would give them a fighting chance - going into a gunfight against heavily armed terrorists with nothing more than a handgun is akin to pissing in the wind.
 (I helped save b3ta! oldpoint is up in space doing important work for NASA., Thu 12 May 2011, 1:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ape ing
He said rifles were for wounding and leaving someone as a demoralising influrence
Whilst if you really wanted to make a big hole in someone you used
Your side arm.

Ignore title, brain fart

[edit] christ I was asleep when I wrote the above.
I was referring to a drunken pub chat with a squadie.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Thu 12 May 2011, 7:14, , Reply)