fairenough, but an infinite number of these shows does nothing useful to belief and facts.
On that day, I was on an IT course all phones off, no comms, no TV no radio. I got on the bus and dropped off for a pint, the pub was packed.
Everyone was watching the tv and saw what I thought was a hollywood blockbuster with an amatuer SFX director while I was trying to get a pint, then someone said it was real and I said no, it cant be and got told I had no Idea, sadly yes I did.
I saw it cold without knowing what I was supposed to think and see and it looked wrong.
How much deflection when the "impact" of that many tonnes with that inertia? gives you a guess of rigidity, and the floor didnt instantly drop to the next, so that is a guess at loading margins. melting steel? with just jet fuel in an open fire? too many pinches of salt. And I have had it suggested that yes, 2 or 3 floors should have partially collapsed, the plane should have slipped out sideways and the core remain intact if the floors were less strong. But the colleague who discussed this is only a consultant structural/civil engineer so what does he know?
(, Thu 1 May 2008, 12:44, Reply)
right, back on the tablets
Of course what we saw was completely reality consistent with no disbelief or suspension of knowledge of the properties of materials involved.... I believe, I don`t want my name on any of the current lists.
(, Thu 1 May 2008, 12:48, Reply)
The people in New York
"saw it cold" as well. I would guess it looked pretty realistic to them.
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jsut peopel, Thu 1 May 2008, 12:55,
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If I`d been standing there when it happened I wouldn`t be able to say to what I just said
I`ve been too close to too many things, including bombings and I know that in the aftermath I cant be certain what I remember is exactly what happened, and I can only say what little i do know, the rest is my head trying to make sense of the jumble of events so I can carry on.
I know what I saw, emotionally detached on a tv screen and then went what? this is real, but how can that be?
I know its a difficult area, still no proper answers. will any of the paperwork come into public domain in x many years? time will tell, I will be in a box by then, so it doesn`t matter. Shame the approved model will probably continue until then.
(, Thu 1 May 2008, 13:13, Reply)
yep
the strangest thing I thought was were the hell was the air defence?
turns out there was an exercise that day of planes hitting buildings overseen by Cheney which made Norad standown
think that's fishy
check out the Pakistani ISI money tranferes and CIA connections
the more i've looked into it the more convinced I am this was allowed to happen
I posted this previously on the above points:
www.b3ta.com/links/166169
(, Thu 1 May 2008, 15:51, Reply)
Oof, that DJ fella is a complete prick.
The chap on the phone merely implied he was about to question the DJ's theories, at which point DJ boy spat the dummy and launched into an incredibly pissy, shallow and borderline incoherent 'proof' of his own infallibility - which basically amounted to reeling off a fairly short list of people he's interviewed who agreed with him. (And who were presumably hand-picked for interview precisely because they agree with him.)
I'm not offering an opinion on the validity of his claims one way or another here - merely pointing out that his position here is risibly flimsy, and moreover that he appears to be an absolutely COLOSSAL wanker.
Um, IMHO. ;)
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grey kid ...if it rhymes, I can cause trouble in it, Thu 1 May 2008, 19:00,
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THAT FUCKING ANTI-AMERICAN CUNT
grrrrr.
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hexachordal oh god is that an octopus in her vagina oh god, Sun 4 May 2008, 14:49,
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