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# awwww fuck
and i was in bed
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:23, archived)
# you could always write to them
[email protected]

Here's a snippet of mine:
Dear Sir,

I draw your attention to the OfCom verdict on The Big Story: My Word, Fox
News, 28 January, 22:00.
www.ofcom.org.uk/bulletins/prog_cb/pcb_11/upheld_cases?a=87101

As an organisation that has possibly soured relations between our two
countries by your 'frothing at the mouth' anti-Britishism is John Gibson
going to make an apology in the same 'My Word' segment? I feel the that
American people have a right to be told in the same manner as the original
broadcast, that most of Mr Gibson's statements held little or no respect for
the facts.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:28, archived)
# nah, i think he had the right to say it
and yes, i think he had the right to say it where and when he did... but he should've been prepared to back up his statements when asked and he didn't
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:30, archived)
# That letter fails to take into account
the fact that Ofcom is wrong and Fox is right.

Truth comes from facts, not from the biased declarations of political appointees.

The Fox presenter, John Gibson, said in a segment entitled My Word that the BBC had "a frothing-at-the-mouth anti-Americanism that was obsessive, irrational and dishonest";

Correct.

that the BBC "felt entitled to lie and, when caught lying, felt entitled to defend its lying reporters and executives";

Correct.

that the BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan, in Baghdad during the US invasion, had "insisted on air that the Iraqi army was heroically repulsing an incompetent American military";

Not sure

and that "the BBC, far from blaming itself, insisted its reporter had a right to lie - exaggerate - because, well, the BBC knew that the war was wrong, and anything they could say to underscore that point had to be right".

Correct.


Three out of four ain't bad.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:31, archived)
# wow... that's an incredibly black and white view
of the world
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:34, archived)
# Just saying something's true
doesn't make it so.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:35, archived)
# That is why Ofcom is wrong.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:36, archived)
# And why you are right?
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:36, archived)
# Because
the BBC did, in fact, do the three things I have marked as "correct" above.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:39, archived)
# But you haven't actually
got any proof have you? And without proof, the facts that you set so much store by are merely opinion and conjecture.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:41, archived)
# I have proof.
It's the report of the Hutton Inquiry.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:43, archived)
# The Hutton report states that the BBC
is frothingly anti-american? The Hutton report states that the BBC felt entitled to lie? The Hutton report states that "the BBC knew that the war was wrong, and anything they could say to underscore that point had to be right"?

No it doesn't, and I have read it cover to cover.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:45, archived)
# Because Rupert told him.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:39, archived)
# I think there's only as much anti-merkinism in middle-to-left media
as there is in the centre-to-left populace, as let's face it, labour went right.

The bbc defended a journalist who calimed he was right. He got caught on a technicality - and despite what he believed, he was technically wrong. This did not change the alleged 'rearranging' of the dossier, or the reasons why it was being edited to sell it to the british popluace.
Gilligan did not deify Iraqi resistance or attack american forces.
And the BBC defended one of their own against an irrationaly pro-war government.

So the facts (those that can be considered correct without your exaggerating them) still do not fullly match up to your beliefs...

:)
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:44, archived)
# there's a couple of neo-cons about
who are accusing anyone who was interested in the actual events of having listened to the bbc's version of events solely because it matched the political views, rather than the small technical details that actually meant the journalist was wrong and the amazing ability of labour to ignore the facts stacked against them.

In essence I think he's accusing others of what he himself has done, a sort of defense by attack.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:34, archived)
# There's a couple of critical thinkers about
who are challenging the mindless herd-mentality of the BBC and its ignorant supporters.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:36, archived)
# You're not a critical thinker.
You're a troll, and you're getting very, very boring.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:39, archived)
# Then don't reply.
I find the constant left-wing politics here very, very boring. So I liven it up with a bit of dissent.

If you don't like dissent, just press the ignore button and remain in your happy little coccoon of like-minded ideas.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:40, archived)
# Stop
trolling.
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:45, archived)
# Is that statement supposed to be ironic?
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:46, archived)
# EMERGENCY KITTEN
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:36, archived)
# *parp*
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:38, archived)
# ahhhh....
oh such a common tactic in political debates it seems
(, Tue 15 Jun 2004, 12:37, archived)