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# That's one side of the picture
The other side, which B3tans lack, is an appreciation of the general conditions that people have lived under throughout history, and just how good we have it compared to most.

Without that perspective, the critique is mindless and irrelevant.
(Indole Ring, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:32, archived)
# Please do not tarnish all us B3tans with the same brush
I believe that in itself could be classed as a form of oppression against individual thought
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:34, archived)
# "Most", then.
(Indole Ring, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:36, archived)
# you used that before too
and while I have absolutely no desire to get into this particular debate, with the greatest of respect, you have no idea whatsoever what "most" b3tans think, feel or say. You just get the odd comment or picture from perhaps a third of b3tans to go on.
So please, don't generalise like that.
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:39, archived)
# Generalisation has its hazards
... but I think that some judgements can be formed from what B3tans say, and how they react to certain things.

When someone posted "Reservoir Wogs" the other day, the board erupted in condemnation. But I don't see such condemnation for the unfair and hurtful things directed against some nationalities on this board (see the US flag toilet roll at the top of this page, for example).
(Indole Ring, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:47, archived)
# Although it can sometimes be mindless, true,
it's _never_ irrelevant; it's a basic right, it's a fundamental part of the process of democracy. It's Voltaire, defending to the death your right to be completely wrong. It's the 1st amendment. Without the critics, without the disagreement, democracy is meaningless, defanged, not worth defending. So by all means argue with Beau and me, but don't ever accuse us of working against democracy and not appreciating it. We ARE democracy.
(tomsk, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:38, archived)
# and sexy too
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:39, archived)
# Good point.
I just wish that sometimes the bad guys would cop a bucketing, and not just our side.

Sigh.
(Indole Ring, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:41, archived)
# I agree with you there.
Probably because Saddam and Osama and Co. have much smaller PR departments, there's a lot less material to work on.
(tomsk, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:45, archived)
# Yeah, well
I think I'll go to bed now, and dream of photoshopping kittens.

Which is what I'd really rather do here -- there's enough politics elsewhere.
(Indole Ring, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:49, archived)
# G'night.
(tomsk, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 12:51, archived)