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# I know 1981
Wasn't that just after 1980 ?
(I helped save b3ta! koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Sat 22 Feb 2003, 15:33, archived)
# It happened
about 12 months afterwards
(I helped save b3ta! Roxy_Hart is so so old, Sat 22 Feb 2003, 15:35, archived)