b3ta.com board
You are not logged in. Login or Signup
Home » Messageboard » Corporate Greenwash » Message 9913389

[challenge entry] ning

From the Corporate Greenwash challenge. See all 125 entries (closed)

(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:32, archived)
# That is genius. They should so do this.
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:33, archived)
# i thought so too
wonders if it possible....
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:34, archived)
# They've got a solar powered one:
www.pacificspirit.org/news/uploaded_images/AquatankerAtSeaLR-747748.jpg

Concept, anyhow.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:42, archived)
# Why have they not done this?
*strange world
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:44, archived)
# Too expensive?
Also: Massive sails of solar panels? Massively impractical. It'd take a lot of designing.
(I helped save b3ta! Ghostwriter can't pick up his pencil, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:50, archived)
# I daresay they wouldn't generate enough power to move one of those.
Particularly as the movement of the ship could decreased the relative wind speed (unless it sailed into the wind).

Edit: Now I feel a bit rude. Excellent shoppery, sir!
(I helped save b3ta! Ghostwriter can't pick up his pencil, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:52, archived)
# Okay, so a standard wind farm size turbine is 2.5MW, but they only produce approximately 25% of that at any one time due to fluctuations in wind speed etc.
I looked up some oil tankers, and I found a medium sized one with a 8.5MW engine powering it.

I'm too lazy to think about how it would work if the wind was parallel to the direction of travel, so if we assume it's perpendicular instead ... And suggest that they'd be more efficient far out to sea (say, 50%), you'd need 8 turbines to power the engines. This does not take into account the extra weight and drag caused, which would both take power, and also the electricity used by the ship aside from the engine.

I'm a bored engineering student. Can you tell?
(I helped save b3ta! Ghostwriter can't pick up his pencil, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 11:14, archived)
# And there is a lot of drag.
There's a reason they don't put them close together, because they will literally stop the wind.
(I helped save b3ta! Ghostwriter can't pick up his pencil, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 11:19, archived)
# a large super tanker can burn a ton of oil a day.
surely the weight in saved fuel oil would cover the weight added by the turbines.
As for side wind...i guess the turbines would turn into the wind, to enable the tanker to carry on in the direction it was going. Just like old sailing ships,insteadof "tacking" it would be able to go straight?
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 11:38, archived)
# I think the drag of the blades would outweigh the benefits.
Would only really work into a headwind!
(I helped save b3ta! JebediahSpringfield, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:53, archived)
# Argh
Mindpiss!
(I helped save b3ta! JebediahSpringfield, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:53, archived)
# this^
alot
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:55, archived)
# Heh..
(I helped save b3ta! Ghostwriter can't pick up his pencil, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 11:02, archived)
# It is
And it has been done. Ships still (by and large) follow the traditional trade routes that formed because of the trade winds. Even though with diesel engines and what have you, there is no real need to do so.

They have tried computer controlled "kites", sails and so on. The saving is around 20-30% if memory serves correctly. Not to be sneezed at.
(SpangleDangle >->)))'>, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 12:45, archived)
# ^ this. yes, you should try to sell them the idea
(I helped save b3ta! plentyofants more ghee, vicar?, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:54, archived)
# Oh jolly good effort, Sir!
Jolly good show!
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:33, archived)
# Very nice.
Make all the rest of us look like amateurs*, why don't you!

(* - may in fact be rank amateur)
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:35, archived)
# Lovely stuff
:)
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:40, archived)
[challenge entry] Hahaha
(I helped save b3ta! BleachedEgo draw a cdc then get back to your teen porn.Pricks, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:41, archived)
# :DD
(herman:D, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 11:38, archived)
# that's GOOD
have a "click" :)
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:42, archived)
# *cherish's
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:45, archived)
# Marvellous sir!
*Click* :D
(I helped save b3ta! Ninj, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:44, archived)
# *places in basket with Elvis's...with a condomand some lube.
We wouldnt want them breeding now would we.
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:47, archived)
# Brilliant.
:D
(I helped save b3ta! Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day, Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:50, archived)
# Cracking
and when it's calm they could run the windmills on oil.
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:52, archived)
# lols
bravo
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:56, archived)
# very nice work indeed
and well worthy of this *click*
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Thu 11 Feb 2010, 10:56, archived)