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(, Thu 30 May 2013, 15:27)
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For a few years now, i've been thinking about trying some weed.
I'm coming up to my 30s now, and I haven't tried it for about 10 years or soo. I've only had it about 5 times, and every time i've "white out", but I'm thinking if I can get some week shit, then it'll be alright.

I've been speaking to my doctors about it, and the main downside i've been told is that it'll work on me (as a pain killer) and then i'll be hooked on it. It has many advantages to my illness (chrones), and that i'm really interested in trying it. I'm in two minds though, because I have anxiety issues and weed with that is a bad thing.

I also don't really drink, so I think a bit of puff would be good as a weekend-relaxer.

I was really against the stuff for many years because I saw my friends abuse it and one by one completly fuck up their uni directly because of it.

I don't want to be a stonner, I just wanna take a joint on a saturday night and nosh out while chilling.

Whats your thoughts on the stuff?
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:07, 34 replies)
I'd say its legal status makes things tricky.
If it were legal I'd say go for it -- as long as you're sensible and don't smoke all the time it's unlikely to have any negative effects.
However, the fact it's illegal means you have to deal with drug dealers (see what I did there) and means that you can't carry a nice little supply around without the possibility of a police officer smelling it and doing a stop-and-search.
I think the trick to not "whiting out" is to smoke slowly and stop before you start to feel it properly kick-in as it takes a short while to take effect during which period you may have inhaled quite a bit more if you're not careful. It's a bit like drinking in that way -- if you stop drinking when you feel pissed you'll likely become more drunk in the next hour or so as more alcohol finds its way into your blood.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:13, closed)
I get a cab to the docs every week, there'n'back, and normally they send out the same guy.
Last time he was talking about "Going the the sauna, getting jiggy jiggy, £40, you're a young man...." etc, so I think he can get me some. Apparently the stuff I want is "Hash". I remember as a teen making a joint and smoking it out my window when I had the stuff, and then just going to sleep, which is exactly what I want. I think its hash, it was a block that I light in and crumbled.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:35, closed)
hash is rarer than hen's teeth these days.
it is lovely though. get yourself a pipe - it'll slow you down as otherwise you'll smoke a j like a cigarette and pull one of those horrible whiteys.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 19:27, closed)
i'd give it a miss
i used to smoke it a few years back. it was ok, nice and mellow. then it started to change and became harsher, causing more paranoia than anything else. the stuff you get now just isn't the same as it used to be so, if you're after a nice and mellow time, forget it.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:21, closed)
I think thats one of my troubles, don't wanna get wasted.

(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:35, closed)
you're best off leaving it be, then

(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:40, closed)
Surely I can put like half in or somethinG?

(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:49, closed)
sounds like you've already decided
just remember, it's more chemical than herbal these days, so go really easy on it and make sure you've got someone with you
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:52, closed)
'More chemical than herbal'?
Do you take St John's Wort to treat your depression instead of prescription antidepressants 'because it's more natural'?
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 17:49, closed)
ok, maybe i phrased that wrong
but the stuff today is nasty, not like we used to get. it's been messed about with, is the point i'm making.
(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 14:45, closed)
If anything it is of a better quality than the stuff we used to get.
I can only see this as a good thing.
(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 22:42, closed)
not for me it isn't
increased paranoia and anxiety aren't my idea of a good time these days
(, Mon 3 Jun 2013, 13:52, closed)
what? he's talking about pot, not fucking pcp.

(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 19:28, closed)
I reckon Gonz would be a sexy motherfucker on PCP.

(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 20:17, closed)
Body stone > mind fuck
Go for "bushies" (home grown preferably not hydroponics) over hyros or hash.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 19:39, closed)
Used to enjoy it, then one night about 9 years ago had a bad experience, think it was something that my mate mixed it with, never been so terrified
thankfully I was with someone else who got me home okay, haven't touched it since
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 15:44, closed)
Five times of it not working for you
Should be evidence enough?
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 19:17, closed)
If you're lucky enough to get your hands on anything particularly good, just use less.
Don't eat it - by the time you realise you've had too much it's too late.
And get some tasty snacks in.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 19:19, closed)
Get fuckloads and eat it with a bag of mushrooms.
But make sure you regularly top up on mephedrone and ketamine until it kicks in.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 20:01, closed)
It's this kind of vague instruction that sometimes makes me doubt you're really a doctor.
How big does the bag of mushrooms have to be?
Should he be snorting, chasing or injecting the meph and the ketamine?
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 20:07, closed)
The bag of mushrooms should be stuffed like one of those placky bags of candy floss at shitty fairgrounds.
The mephedrone should be taken through the tearducts and the ketamine should be bathed in like Cleopatra in asses' milk.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 20:16, closed)
These are especially tasty:

(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 20:27, closed)
That one on the right looks like your penis.

(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 11:41, closed)
Only bigger.

(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 12:50, closed)
You're already a morphine addict. That's probably enough.

(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 21:53, closed)
we be high
How easy it is to score and what you can get will tend to depend on where you live. This site might help: webehigh.org/

I understand there are a lot of message boards round that there interwebs where people will send you a variety of different drugs through the post for a fee. The Daily Fail and other tabloids tend to refer to and even name these sites when doing "my drugs nightmare"-type stories. I haven't ever tried this but I know people who have and they said they got what they paid for more often than not.

For general unbiased drugs information, kids, google erowid.
(, Sat 1 Jun 2013, 23:31, closed)
In my experience...
...there are people who have a natural affinity for cannabis, and there are those who don't. It seems as if you fall into the latter category. I have also known people - older than you - who were confirmed non-smokers all their lives, started smoking joints and then became committed fag smokers. Not good.

As an illegal product, you can't hope to get a specific variety of it when you buy; you get what the market demand is for, which nowadays is "cheese" or "skunk" which is strong, generally grown with the use of lots of hormones and chemical nasties, and frequently sprayed with glass to increase its weight. This is unless you choose to grow your own - there is just enough time now to get some seeds planted outside, which is - if you're determined to go down this path - your best bet to ensure quality control.

Recently published data would seem to indicate that there is a 50% chance that using cannabis would bring your Crohn's into remission: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648372 so this could be worth a go. I have helped defend people on possession charges due to medicinal use in the UK (they got off) so I wouldn't worry about the legal implications of growing 2-3 plants in your garden (hide them among tomato plants is the best bet to avoid kids stealing them though). Growing much more or having an indoor grow room is much riskier though.

If you go ahead with this, just don't use tobacco. Use a pipe, or try making brownies etc. The internet is your friend and can provide much better advice than I can. Good luck.
(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 9:12, closed)
I smoke it almost every evening
It doesn't work for everybody, and it isn't really ideal for recreational use. What it does for me is to dissolve boundaries, open my mind and enable me to focus on one thing at a time. I have a very busy mind and am artistic, so it puts me in a really good zone.

When stoned, sex is more intense, music is more intense and flavours are stronger. Reading and casual conversation can be a struggle, and don't try and talk to your mum on the phone!

A party full of stoners can be pretty tedious, as a room full of people who go into their own heads more and focus more intently on things one by one can be dull. It isn't a party intoxicant.

I would say avoid the stuff if that intensity and breaking-down of barriers is not something you welcome. Also, if you are miserable at this stage in your life, weed can make you feel much worse.
(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 11:41, closed)

I haven't smoked for over five years now and don't really miss it. I could only handle small amounts before getting couch lock, about 50 /50 home grown to tobacco in a three skin shared between two of us.
Music sounds truly amazing though.
(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 11:47, closed)
It makes people think that Cheech and Chong are funny.
Just Say No.
(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 12:51, closed)
Also it does account for the existance of Ozric tentacles

(, Tue 4 Jun 2013, 18:12, closed)
It would at least mean you had a hobby.

(, Sun 2 Jun 2013, 18:12, closed)

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