Agreed
Such as the automatic derision which is levelled at any mention of mind control.

As I've mentioned in another thread about the MKULTRA programme of the CIA; it consumed a quarter to a third of their annual budget for about a decade and consisted of over 120 sub-programs in several countries and was only shut down (if indeed it was) when victims of their experiments took them to court.

Suggest that they may have actually gained something from it though and you're laughed at.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 12:43, 2 replies)

Was that the scheme where the killed goats by staring at them?
Can't imagine why people don't take that seriously.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:00, closed)

The First Earth Battalion was indeed
one of the sub-programs under the umbrella of MKULTRA. If you think it odd that the CIA would give anything like that credence, much less throw money at it, you must bear in mind that they were hearing that the Russians were experimenting with telepathy as a means of tracking nuclear submarines.

One of the Russian experiments consisted of putting a litter of newborn rabbits on different subs and sending them out to sea and killing the rabbits at specific times to see if the mother rabbit could tell her young had been killed by wiring it up to heart and brain monitors.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:22, closed)

I think the problem is the phrase "mind control"
in that we've all seen the the silly sci-fi movies and know it means making programmable murder zombies that'll suddenly shoot someone on hearing a keyword.

Whereas MKULTRA seems to have be largely about making people so disorientated and confused that they'll fess up their secrets. Torture basically.*

*This is the theory I nabbed from Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine btw.
( rob, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:02, closed)

I dont' know if I posted this before
but this is a transcript of a lecture on the subject of the history of mind control up to and including project MKULTRA which makes mention of what the CIA were trying to discover.

www.tgorski.com/Mind%20Control/history_of_mind_control.htm

As you say, initially this research was conceived as advanced interrogation techniques but it wasn't long before people started thinking they could do something more with it, including the programmable murder zombie that acts upon a keyword.

At the very least this subject has given us three cracking Bourne films, so regardless of whether MKULTRA produced anything quite that useful or not it's given Hollywood some good ideas.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 7 Dec 2011, 13:16, closed)