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Freddie Woo tells us "I'm having to drive 500 miles to pick up my son from the ex's house because she won't let him take the train in case he gets off at the wrong station. He's 19 years old and has A-Levels and everything." - Tell us about illogical and irrational people who get on your nerves.

(, Thu 10 Oct 2013, 12:24)
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Regulating nonsense
For once, I'm not going to pour my pity out towards the various spine wizards, amnesiac water fondlers, human pincushion analysts and footrub apologists that make up the SCAM (supplementary, complementary and alternative "medicine") industry.

But think on this. How about trying to regulate that mess, but without at any time undermining the many mutually contradictory belief systems that make it up? What kind of regulation regime could possibly cope?

The diversity of it is so incredible that as long as you have done your training in advanced spiritual handwaving or percussive cranial lignoplasty (work it out) you can apply for accreditation and be certified.

Just imagine the minefield of a complaints procedure that must ensue. Who would possibly want to be involved in that?

Look up "CNHC" and be amazed.
(, Fri 11 Oct 2013, 14:45, 7 replies)
Read David Colquhoun on it
Is a pharmacologist and FRS, who applied to sit on the CNHC. Did for a bit, and then got fired, for being all rational and shit.

www.dcscience.net/?p=3311
(, Fri 11 Oct 2013, 14:56, closed)
I had the good fortune to meet him once.
He was booked for a talk. He turned up, no notes, no powerpoint bollocks, just sat down with his pipe and reminisced for the audience. Great evening.
(, Fri 11 Oct 2013, 15:38, closed)
Well, at least there is positive traction to get rid of the fucktards.
www.dw.de/uk-universities-drop-alternative-medicine-degree-programs/a-15673133

David Colquhoun
(, Fri 11 Oct 2013, 16:02, closed)
my view is that anything which calls itself a medicine should be subject to the medicinal regulations
then the vast, vast majority of "alternative" medicines would fall foul of Article 12:

The marketing authorisation shall be refused if [...] it appears that the applicant has not properly or sufficiently demonstrated the quality, safety or efficacy of the medicinal product.

thus, they wouldn't be able to call themselves "medicines" any more - problem solved
(, Fri 11 Oct 2013, 18:05, closed)
Agreed
If you're marketing it as a "treatment" or "therapy", then it should be regulated under a single united set of standards. The most basic of which should be "Yes, but does it actually work?"

Instead, we have a system of carve-outs for traditional herbal preparations and other quackery, and systems of pseudo-regulation to help rubber-stamp them with the whiff of legitimacy.

But even by their own rules there's still a big problem
(, Mon 14 Oct 2013, 13:37, closed)

I like percussive cranial lignoplasty, but have you heard of retrophrenology*?






*Phrenology is a way of measuring the skull of a person to analyze their personality.
Retrophrenology is a way to change said personality.
(, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 6:17, closed)
Related fields
I believe that one can be implemented using the other.
(, Mon 14 Oct 2013, 13:32, closed)

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