I love a good conspiracy...
Tehre is a lot about 9-11 that just doesnt' ring true - mainly the fact that a building that big, built that way would not drop straight down as it collapsed, unless assisted - when you pull enough blocks out of the side of a Jenga game tower, it falls over, it doesn't collapse in a neat heap, missing everythign around it. The Who and why...well, I think Bush and Cheney are up to their necks in it, what with the ties to Bni Laden's family that Bush has, but hey, what do I know?

The odds are we'll never know, as even if Bush was guilty as sin, there's no way the US will ever admit is, even fifty years down the line when secrecy acts are no longer in place - after all, how could a culture that is based on a delusional self-belief that they are better than everyone else (and that everyone wishes to be like them) ever admit that the leader they elected - not once, but twice - was in fact a self-centred, greedy, amoral, corrupt, murdering piece of garbage? Hell, they'd rather believe he was mentally sub-normal as at least they can fool themselves that he did his best and meant well.

Other conspiracies I've heard of:

1) There is a huge RAF base underground in Guildford that has the entire Lockerbie 747 rebuilt in it, as it wasn't a bomb, it was a UFO collision...

2) There's a vial in Portland Down that contains a Doomsday bacteria that consumes oxygen at an almost infinte rate - in the event of Nuclear war, the British Government would release it to end all life on Earth (aside from that inside the oxygen-rich sealed bunkers that the UK government would be in) - the bacteria would then die and repopulation would begin. Only problem is that they can't kill the bacteria without opening the vial and they can't open it without ending the world...

3) AIDS was created by South African scientists looking for a way to eradicate the "lesser negroid race" - the experimental chimps broke out of the lab and escaped into the countryside - once they had bitten/been shabged by/been eaten by the natives, the rest is history...

4) The government is deliverately lowering edication standrads and criminalising the populace (by ensuring everyone has at least a speeding ticket or parking fine, despite the illegality of the way they are enforced), so that they can claim that any objection to their rule is being raised by a thick untrustworthy thief, so can be ignored and thus impose their ideas and policies without question... (sadly, there is a warped logic to this).

5) If the price of oil in the US rises so that Petrol is more than $1.50 a gallon, they shoot the President as this is the extent the US citizenry will put up with fuel increases limiting their self-deluded consumption of resources and desire to convince themselves of "The American Way Of Life"...

There are many more - not that I believe them, but I have had some "great" conversations in the Pub with various drunkards!
(Chad, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:24, 14 replies)

well, I dunno what you did know
but now you know that the reason the twin towers fell straight is that is precisely what they were designed to. Circle of steel supports around a hollow core means it's very hard from them to fall outwards. Specifically designed for major impacts and earthquakes (and a British architect, natch).

You don't seriously think architects use Jenga as a basis for building design, do you? although it could be funny I suppose...

So, sorry, whatever Bush and Cheney might be guilty of, it wasn't that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:31, closed)

well put
it amazes me how many people fail to think that large buildings aren't designed (to some extent) to deal with the possibility of collapse or impact.

a point though. the architect more than likely wouldn't have had a great deal to do with making it not fall down in certain ways.

/civil engineer
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:39, closed)

I immediately stopped reading
When someone uses tumbling Jenga as the logic for an unbelievably complex skyscraper.

Let's compare a balloon and the earth - a tiny pin-prick, a fraction of the size of the balloon totally OBLITERATES the balloon.

Similarly, an asteroid the size of a mini would OBLITERATE THE WORLD!!!!!!!
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 3 Sep 2009, 12:06, closed)

An extraordinary amount of bullshit there
with one exception:

"The government is deliverately lowering edication standrads"

On that point, you have me nodding sagely in agreement.
( chart cat has an itch, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:34, closed)

*agrees*
The evidence is compelling, innit.
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:47, closed)

*guffaws*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:57, closed)

Pedants on B3TA
It will never do.

Porton Down not Portland...
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:38, closed)

That is definitely not the biggest problem with this post.

( zeltergiset, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:49, closed)

Just the first I spotted

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:58, closed)

and how dare you
tarnish the mighty Who with this nonsense?

Great band and nothing to do with the twin towers. Granted, Towser's *ahem* book research is a whole other matter....
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 16:56, closed)

Point 4
Is patently a load of bollocks. "A warped logic to it"? Fucking spare me.

Speeding tickets, while notionally a criminal offence, are rarely seen as such. And many parking tickets are issued by private companies, making them civil penalties. So saying that someone is a "thick, untrustworthy thief" just because they have a few motoring convictions is utterly mindless. You retard.

Schools are another matter, although the lowering of educational standards is probably more to do with trying to raise the perceived performance of schools in the league tables than trying to create some kind of dystopian facist state. You retard.

Besides, when has performance at school had a bearing on a person's natural intelligence? Intelligence is proved by strong rhetorical skills, creative thinking and problem solving abilities, not by waving a piece of paper showing your GCSE results. You retard.

(Same goes for your other points, just assume I've demolished them in the same devastating way. You retard.)
(MrC. Having the most boring username on b3ta since 2004, Wed 2 Sep 2009, 17:11, closed)

You objectionable Bastard.
Ignores.
(AndyC4m Eject Eject [><], Thu 3 Sep 2009, 10:30, closed)

I'm from a redneck town...
And a large group of the somewhat insane portion of the population had plans to take arms against the government if the price of gasoline rose about $5 per gallon. Oh yes, they said, it was their constitutional right and duty to build a militia of the people in order to cause a civil war, death and destruction...

...just because it might cost a lot of money to drive their 32 megafuckton truck 2 blocks to the donut shop.

My queries about owning a smaller vehicle or walking, to them, seemed more absurd than doin' lots of killin'.
(TheSnark oh, c'mon, like you didn't see me coming, Thu 3 Sep 2009, 10:19, closed)

So
The World Trade Centre's collapse was down to the US government because the towers fell straight down, which is of course impossible unless they'd been cleverly engineered to do so because, like, they're slap bang in the middle of a heavily built up area and it would be foolish to apply the Jenga principle when constructing two incredibly tall buildings in the middle of a city containing several million people?

That's sounds plausible, apart from the two great big fucking aeroplanes that ended up sticking out of each building like a pair of flaming darts.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 3 Sep 2009, 10:26, closed)