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# Lemme
think..

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead?

Oh no wait a minute.

The other one... wassit called?

*edit* OHHH! waiting for Godot.
(I helped save b3ta! Razor What the fuck - a sig?, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:29, archived)
# Noone is EVER
allowed to refer to Hamlet or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead in my presence. EVER.

*stabs English classes*
(s0WmVHAwZgpG, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:31, archived)
# hahaha!
its my favourite play ever and i'm going to constantly quote it just to annoy you :)

(edit) Hamlet that is, not R&GAD, though i plan to read it sometime soon
(I helped save b3ta! Spoon, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:33, archived)
# I'm going to see it performed
on Saturday so I guess I can live with it.

Edit: ohh I love Hamlet. Above refers to RAGAD. But I'm all Hamleted out!
(s0WmVHAwZgpG, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:33, archived)
# ooh,
whereabouts?
(I helped save b3ta! Spoon, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:34, archived)
# heh, not somewhere
i could exactly pop over to :)
(I helped save b3ta! Spoon, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:40, archived)
# Heh
what's a couple of days travelling! Charter a private jet and you'd get there in no time! :P
(s0WmVHAwZgpG, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:44, archived)
# What a piece of work is man
As for his supposed referencing of Beckett, Stoppard admits that he admires the Irish playwright and had read a great deal of Beckett's non-dramatic literature when he wrote Rosencrantz and Guildenstern but denies any direct links between his play and Godot. Most critics agree that Rosencrantz and Guildenstern resemble Beckett's tramps Didi and Gogo in that both pairs are trapped in a situation that is inescapable; they all confront an existential condition and ultimately lament the meaninglessness of their existence in the face of an "author" who proves no savior and prescribes for them only eventual death. Indeed, Rosencrantz, like Godot, is termed by theatre historians and drama critics an "absurdist" play in reference to Martin Esslin's seminal text, The Theatre of the Absurd. The Theatre of the Absurd, according to Esslin, refers to a body of dramatic work by post WW2 playwrights whose plays are all colored or patterned by an existentialist ideology. Based in large part upon the theories of Albert Camus and John Paul Sartre, existentialism addresses the feelings of "Absurdity" [the absence of purpose or meaning] humanity encounters in a world of shattered beliefs--a world where millions of people are killed in concentration camps and whole cities are annihilated by atomic bombs. "This sense of metaphysical anguish at the absurdity of the human condition is, broadly speaking, the theme of the plays of Beckett, Adamov, Ionesco, Genet, and [others]. [T]he Theatre of the Absurd strives to express its sense of the senselessness of the human condition and the inadequacy of the rational approach by the open abandonment of rational devices and discursive thought." 6 Ros and Guil, many critics argue, encounter such a world where their queries are made in vain, where meaning is arbitrary and where they become victims of a seemingly random circumstance they neither proscribe nor control.
(I helped save b3ta! butchbint, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:34, archived)
# Indeed
yes.

/backs away
(I helped save b3ta! Razor What the fuck - a sig?, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:36, archived)
# oooh, you big swot you
(I helped save b3ta! new_matt, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:37, archived)
# Well that was more of a quick Google
But my dissertation was a rip-roaring read:
"like the square root of minus one" Unsolvable Paradoxes in Beckett’s Shorter Prose.
(I helped save b3ta! butchbint, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:40, archived)
# ah-hahahahaha
'rip-roaring' read is a great way to describe any dissertation!
(I helped save b3ta! Razor What the fuck - a sig?, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:41, archived)
# It's a high-octane rollercoaster ride of excitement
At least that's what the examiner said.
(I helped save b3ta! butchbint, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:42, archived)
# Was it un-putdownable?
(I helped save b3ta! bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:44, archived)
# I've not been able to put it down yet.
A real page-turner.
I managed to get the words "rectum" "cyst" and "crab-lice" onto the first page. And there is a whole paragraph about cow-pats.
(I helped save b3ta! butchbint, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:49, archived)
# I nominate this
for the Booker prize.
(I helped save b3ta! bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:52, archived)
# I can't lose
I love this quotation (from First Love)
"For had my love been of this kind would I have stooped to inscribe the letters of Anna in time’s forgotten cowpats?”
(I helped save b3ta! butchbint, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:58, archived)
# Heh,
lovely.
(I helped save b3ta! bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:59, archived)
# Well
I haven't ever read/seen Hamlet, Rosecratz & Guildentstern Are Dead or Waiting For Godot...

/ashamed of literary ignorance
(I helped save b3ta! Ijon Tichy, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:37, archived)
# me either
i'm not sure whether this is a good or bad thing
(I helped save b3ta! new_matt, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:39, archived)
# think of it as a good
thing.
RAGAD is a bit silly,
Hamlet is depressing
WFG is plain weird.
(I helped save b3ta! Razor What the fuck - a sig?, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:43, archived)
# Hamlet is very depressing
And of the bit of R&G* I've read so far has just seemed strange.


* Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead is such a pain in the arse to type/write/say/etc
(s0WmVHAwZgpG, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:46, archived)
# It is strange ....
but has some cool concepts ... FACT!
(Zed Smith, Tue 27 May 2003, 13:37, archived)
# bollocks.
(I helped save b3ta! mikeisbrill, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:39, archived)
# sbetter in the French,
all the puns work.
/pedant :@|
(I helped save b3ta! blyerkit e k trilby, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:39, archived)
# wow
I bet all that text is really interesting.
Sadly I'll just have to guess what it says, as my attention span isn't up to it.
(I helped save b3ta! Pootle, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:44, archived)
# I didn't read it either
But if someone tells me not to talk about something then it's my duty to annoy them if possible
(I helped save b3ta! butchbint, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:46, archived)
# waiting
for godot
(I helped save b3ta! Spoon, Tue 27 May 2003, 12:32, archived)