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# it doesn't bother me much but if this was day shift he'd get eaten
(I helped save b3ta! Tom OBedlam I have control of a tank, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 3:54, archived)
# I reckon they need someone in there to diffuse it.
It's all gotten a little too intense if they're shouting over 4kb.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 3:56, archived)
# i think i'm going to start putting every post at 51kb just to see what happens
(I helped save b3ta! Tom OBedlam I have control of a tank, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 3:58, archived)
# they've shouted at 51
some poor bastard got picked on for file size (Lplater, first post was about 200kb) and the nazis just kept shouting him off the board.

Someone to diffuse it...you mean like a mod?
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 3:59, archived)
# No I mean like
er... a diffuser.
Actually I mean someone who's established and respected here to just be a calming voice. Or maybe a bunch of people. My observation is that the board reacts pretty quickly to a change in temperature like that, it can become funny instead of angry, a bit lighter-hearted about the whole thing.
It's funny: there are at least 2 mods I can think of who are much more lenient about file sizes than the majority of users.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:12, archived)
# yeah I try to be humourous and fluffy when it comes to someone abusing a noob etc
Then someone like prodigy69 or DTH etc gets on my case...

and yeah, Bob is pretty easy going with a lot of stuff. Even when I felt it necessary to whine my guts out about nsfw posts.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:22, archived)
# Haha DTH?
The man's practically a board saint. I can't imagine him getting on anyone's case.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:24, archived)
# he got on mine when i said a 60kb image wasn't to bad
i got this long sob story about capped/dialup speeds
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:25, archived)
# This is a genuine argument
for some. Lovely people like Flowerpot in South Africa have archaic broadband caps and it's ( in my opinion of course ) a courtesy to thumbnail all your images and give the viewer a choice to then open up the big picture.
It drives me nuts because it takes very little effort to do and would end all conflict over what is acceptable.
For a self-confessed cunt I'm quite aware of what I put online for others to view. Some of my stuff is massive and I have to cap it to 400kb just to get it on Cr3 hosting. I have recent images near 6MB but a quick thumb to bigger sorts it out.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:33, archived)
# I know it's a genuine argument
but the point that I don't understand is when people are happy with a 49kB image that with some optimisation could be 10kB and rant about a 60kB image and say: that's 10kB oversize.

My caps pretty harsh as well, I get 3 gig (between 3 people) a month and capped to fuck if we use more...
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:39, archived)
# Fucking hell
I used over 2 gig YESTERDAY. I can't see a single legitimate reason for capping. What am I missing? Is there a limited about of internet available in the UK or something? Also I don't know why UK consumers put up with it.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:47, archived)
# im way down in the backwaters of aus
with tight arsed parents.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:56, archived)
# Right.
I honestly don't get it though. Why do ISPs cap the speed? What is the advantage to them to do so?
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:58, archived)
# they can squeeze more customers in
in the assumption that most people don't have their theoretical capacity running 24/7

so you can download your 3 emails each day at 8mb/s

and do nothing else that day!

that's called "anytime use" I think

and yes, it is yet another scam

(see my earlier posts for more whining on this subject)
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:02, archived)
# It's not like that
broadband, whatever the delivery is a pipe. A bit like water. there is only so much you can squeeze down the pipe at any one time and greed has over subscribed it. cable is the worst because they won't hit max in my lifetime and greed is making them find ways to maximise income. Copper DSL is fucked because they sold that shit when BT could barely manage the domestic phone data.
The law on selling and what you can say has just changed and also they ( the ISPs ) have been asked to stop selling BB on speeds they can never reach ( not obligatory ) but it will allow you to get out of a contract as most were mis-sold.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:12, archived)
# it's exactly like that, they have basically sold capacity that doesn't exist
that's why they have the capping for the folk that use "too much", they just oversold it

most private individuals don't use their connection to whatever it's capability is unless they are p2p'ing continually

if the newspeak on the adverts has been killed then it's a start
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:20, archived)
# we have different perspectives on this
as we have different systems. It is true for you ( your argument ) but not for me. I saw internal memos that stated NTL had the data capability and infrastructure to supply every hooked up subscriber with a minimum of 30MB BB before the merger with Telewest. As I said above, they will never reach capacity in my lifetime ( due to dark fibre installations ) but they will take my money for the highest speed yet give me the lowest speed they can get away with the moment I choose to use it. I was shifting 5GB a day with NTL, since the merger and rebrand I can't do that a week.

I have to go to bed and am lighting my last fag. It's been good chatting with you. Now fuck off.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:32, archived)
# haha
fuck off!

:D

the funny thing about computing infrastructure is that to double it sometimes all it takes is an engineer to come out and press a button, this is after a huge invoice got paid.

it's all a load of crap with the little peons paying
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:36, archived)
# to make people pay more for faster internet
pure and simple. they get people on the el cheapo plan. that's really fast, they download alot and then find themselves capped for 20 days of the month. So the isp offers them the medium priced plan and the cycle continues.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:02, archived)
# because charging money for things that don't exist
is the uk way

come on man, you know that :)
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:59, archived)
# I'm pretty lax over it
but if an image is over 100kb I will point it out. I'd like Bob to acknowledge that his 'plucked from the air' recommendation was at a time when a lot of people were still on dial-up and should now be altered but at the end of the day i'm an ex Staff-Sergeant and a little brainwashed when it comes to rules. ( there can never be guidelines, only rules )
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:47, archived)
# They are all little twats
with little hitler complexes who thing they can pick up on one piece of information and pretend they are mods or somehow important in the scheme of anything because they've no talent nor nothing better to do than get a little bonk on over bitching about someones filesize, infact I'm convinced they check the filesize before even looking at the picture.

Sack of cunts.

It wasn't like this in my day.

*wanders off to find slippers*
(Marwood, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:01, archived)
# I do if the pic is taking a month to load because it is half a meg
and I check the filesize of "first post be gentle" to warn people...

Incidentally this:
www.b3ta.com/board/6644184
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:04, archived)
# See, me and Bob know the score.
(Marwood, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:06, archived)
# ace
(GoldenFanjita whistle posse blow! horns crew i can't hear you!, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:18, archived)
# I take issue with many people
over their postings on b3ta. I don't think I'm a nazi or a noob basher. I'm equally as scathing with noobs and those I know are mods. I'm a bit of a faq hag but only because I think it's not hard to be courteous as a poster ( especially as given the b3ta hosting you need never post a too-large file again ).
I also think I do give helpful advice to those who genuinely make mistakes and are not aware of how to correct them with the tools they have.
I am a right cunt with those who are obviously trolling for bite.

Not my job as you point out but then again it's all our jobs to get b3ta fluffy for us all.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:12, archived)
# fuck off noob
(GoldenFanjita whistle posse blow! horns crew i can't hear you!, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:15, archived)
# Haha
sorry. I forgot to mention I do pick on the fat cunts.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:17, archived)
# touche
;)
(GoldenFanjita whistle posse blow! horns crew i can't hear you!, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:17, archived)
# Why are you up so late?
Are you not back on UK time? Also how are you? You irascible bastard.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:20, archived)
# argh
never argue with a troll man NEVER EVER EVER. It's slagging of a griefer in a game. you're giving them the attention and amusement they want.

(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:20, archived)
# it's just boredom
If my wife would actually come home and live with me like a proper fucking woman I might go to bed at night and be less argumentative.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:25, archived)
# Troll?
Hahahahaha!
(Marwood, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:26, archived)
# ;)
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:30, archived)
# Its getting I might need more versions of this, haha etc.

Tho it's hard to think of better than it, alas.
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:08, archived)
# yes yes it is
without using tenticle rape which is of course nsfw.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:10, archived)
# Oooh now there's a thought.
And staggeringly easy to find sources too.
Can be made safe, that is very-very edited
from the original. [/;-D
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:13, archived)
# I wish I could draw anime
I'm sure I could come up with some sick and twisted ideas :)
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:18, archived)
# It's pretty easy to draw outlines
I just wish I could colour it, because my efforts so far have ruined the image.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:25, archived)
# I once saw a book "how to draw anime"
from the images inside the correct title was "How to draw shit zero budget 1970's american cartoons"

it really was dire

tho to be honest I should learn to draw properly before picking up on a style really, if you can't do the basics can't do cack all ultimately
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:27, archived)
# I have this
graphics.smithmicro.com/go/mangastudio
and it was the biggest waste of money ever. All it does is allow you to quickly draw 'speed' and 'motion' lines in your comic frames. I'm sure it is of use to those who are taking the piss out of teenagers with the same old shite ( same people making squirrel with tits crap ) but I certainly think it is crap for the casual illustrator.
( thanks for the recommendation, I have a punch for that guy )
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:42, archived)
# squirrels with tits?
JJ?
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:44, archived)
# best talent
least exploited.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 4:50, archived)
# yeah I tend to agree
although NobbyNobody is just as good
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:04, archived)
# twice as good
and produces art of some worth.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sat 7 Jun 2008, 5:13, archived)