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# pesky robots



sorry for size, haven't quite got the hang of this. If it's too big let me know & i'll take it down
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 1:52, archived)
# its amazing how those bloody things
ever survived,..makes darwin look a cunt really.
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 1:55, archived)
# nice!
tis a little big, but you'll get away with it so long as no-one shouts too much.

looks to me like whatever software you're using is optimising each frame separately - which isn't good for gifs, because they like animations where most of the pixels stay the same between frames. hopefully you'll have some options somewhere that will let you change that (what software are you using?)
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 1:57, archived)
# yeah i thought so
i'm using paint shop pro (eval just ran out!)
It seemed to be v long winded, I made each frame as a seperate gif which must be unnecessary, no?
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 1:59, archived)
# ah
I'm not an expert with paint shop pro, but I would have thought you can import frames straight into animation shop.

failing that you'd be better off exporting the individual frames as jpegs - sticking them all together in animation shop - and then saving the finished product as a gif (because then the optimisation would be the same across all the frames).
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:02, archived)
# why thank you sir (?)
any other ani packages worth messing with?
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:06, archived)
# some people
(kitten and gibbon) swear by 'the gimp' which is free, but I've never used it.

photoshop come with imageready, which was created by god to bring light into the world, but is unfortunately quite expensive...

a few people use flash, which is a deeply, deeply evil way of animation tool, but incredibly powerful for some things.

get hold of photoshop/imageready if you can. bit difficult to get your head round to start with, but well worth it in the end.
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:12, archived)
# yay!
we swear by the gimp, mainly because it's free.
www.gimp.org
we have photoshop and imageready too now, but don't know how to drive them.
in gimp it's filters - animation - optimise and to reduce the colours which also helps it's image - mode - indexed - and in the box pick random numbers until you have the right balance between looking nice and not having lots of size increasing colours.
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:17, archived)
# cool as
as you probly guessed I don't have a danny la rue, but I made a load of psd's using Photoshop Shite (5.5 LE). I don't think you can animate with it, so I exported a load of gifs, and strung 'em together in Animation Shop.

A full on Photoshop/Imageready would let me animate? Kazaa overnight i think...
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:20, archived)
# rogan!
good day to you squire! are you back in blighty now?
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:06, archived)
# yep
popped over to ireland the other day, but I'm back in Leeds now.
I took some pictures in new york, if you're really bored
www.roganjosh.net/album/newyork
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:16, archived)
# woo
lovely photos, hope you had a nice time.
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:37, archived)
# say,
speaking of keeping gif sizes down, i very recently figured out how to animate with ImageReady and i don't know how to go about bringing the size down other than by cropping or reducing the size in pizels. would anyone mind giving me some tips?
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:10, archived)
# in imageready
go to the 'window' menu and open the 'optimisation window'. from there you can turn dithering off (normally a good idea), reduce the number of colours, and if you really need to adjust the lossiness (mostly just a last resort if you really need to make something smaller).

to see the effect of this go to the 'window' menu and select 'show optimised'
(, Sun 9 Mar 2003, 2:18, archived)