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This is a normal post Celebrating what people add to society
would be the alternative. Make that the status symbol.

At the moment, we don't even celebrate work, we celebrate wealth and in doing so encourage greed rather than kindness or skill. Work done well rarely pays financially, and neither does kindness.

"What do you do in your spare time" is always a far more revealing question than "What do you do for a living".
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 13:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post But sometimes
People LIKE what they do for work.
Most people I know in building/manufacturing/seafaring trades will have the "proud" moment when they have poured the perfect concrete or something that nobody will ever notice.

Not everybody can work in an office. And even if they could, they are happier welding in a snowstorm than bonking Jane from accounting over the copier in warm office..

Education should value more manual labour and get kids to study it without having the "Dumbarse" label stuck on.

The only "real" millionaires I know are plumbers, builders or electricians.
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 13:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^This is so true

(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 14:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post You are more fun when we disagree
Be the grammar nazi or someth.
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 14:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post I was agreeing with Monkeon
things can go back to normal now
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post That world exists.
A world where you do your day job for cash reward, but kindness, work done well and work you do for society all come with a much bigger prize. It's Christianity. We traded it for science. And I'm not entirely convinced that was such a good deal.
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post You mean the middle ages?
Lovely times those were!
Wife learnt how to read? Burn her at the stake like the witch she is etc.

Christianity moral values is stuffed a mile high up a choirboy's arse. Their perceived moral high ground is the cesspit of the worst depravity.
Let your priests marry and get to appreciate women with tits, hairy bits, the capacity to argue and make lovely children.
Maybe then they will stop stuffing the shrill voiced staff up the stuffing box.

Religion has in no way, shape or form helped humanity. Some people of faith helped, but their respective science fiction best-sellers did not.
Edit: I respect the fact that people have a religion, because not everybody is born with the capacity to distinguish right from wrong without a self-help book. But I despise ALL religions fairly and equally.
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not really
Christianity only really rewards people for being Christian. Someone amazing gets the same reward as someone awful who apologised, and I don't think it says anything about useful work being better than work-for-works sake.

Science should allow us to have more and work less, if capitalism wasn't so full of holes.
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Someone amazing gets the same reward as someone awful who became amazing.
Would be more accurate. Anyway it's not coming back. And now democracy and, as you say, capitalism are the twin pillars of our civilisation. And neither of them are likely to reward volunteers, the kind or the quietly conscientious. But I suspect they're the best we've got.
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's not "Christianity", it's "being a decent human being"
Christianity is that plus carrots & sticks.
(, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 16:38, , Reply)