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This is a normal post Anthropology and psychology are not 'true' sciences anyway
So calling it pseudo-science is somewhat meaningless.

Both of those articles were so whiny though and came across as rants rather then calmly argued counters.

I'm not suggesting everything Sinek says is correct, but the world that millennials grew up in was a very very different place to the generations that preceded them.

I was born in 1980, so I spanned the two worlds - I got my first mobile phone for my 18th birthday (before many people my age had them - it was the Nokia 8110 'banana phone' from the Matrix). The World Wide Web didn't even exist until I was 14, didn't take hold until I was about 16, and only started having really useful stuff on it (apart from porn) until I was in my early 20's.

Millennials don't know life before the internet, and all it's interconnected, 'entirety of human knowledge at your fingertips' goodness. The article that points out that every generation has bemoaned the next since the Greeks, whilst true, misses the point that the world has moved further and faster than ever before in the last 30 years.

I think one of the biggest problems is the fact that the national curriculum hasn't changed since the industrial revolution, and is still trying to churn out Victorian engineers. It values regurgitation of facts in subjects that don't even fit well with the real world anymore, rather than teaching problem solving, rational thought and appraisal of facts and evidence.

I distinctly remember sitting in junior school asking my teacher why we needed to learn mental arithmetic when we can solve all maths problems on a calculator. She rather smugly told me that I wouldn't always have a calculator in my pocket. Now, every time I use the calculator on my phone, I say to myself "Fuck you Mrs Fogg!"
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 0:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Similar to the twunt who moaned that kids don't know how to wire a simple plug nowadays.
16 year old me counted with, 'yes sir, but can you build a website?'. I could. And I could wire a plug.
 (I helped save b3ta! rjmrjm, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 0:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Bugger
I'd typed out a somewhat well reasoned, compromising response and my browser just ate it.

Sinek sounds whiny as well. So na na na na na
 (I helped save b3ta! clockworkrat has nice pants, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 2:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't get the impression that he was whining about anything
He certainly doesn't blame millennials for their problems, he just points out what the issues are, a possible reason for why they're there, and a reasonable solution to them.

I felt like he was on the side of the millennial, and he wanted to be able to tap into into their youth, enthusiasm and inherent understanding of the modern world that the previous generation can't quite grasp.

I don't see why anyone should get upset about what he was saying. Maybe the article was written by someone who received too many participation medals ;D
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 9:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post I got annoyed
He's more condescending then blaming; he sees millennials as sheep who haven't had
the benefit of his generation's totes superior parenting. But then again I would
think that, I got a sticker for going to a sports day when I was seven, so I
probably have brain damage or something.
 (I helped save b3ta! maninahat Too many cocks spoil the brothel., Sun 15 Jan 2017, 10:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Interesting perspective
Although I disagree with your second point about being sheep. I think he's arguing quite the opposite - they have all been brought up believing they are special and unique.

Don't get me wrong - all good parents across the ages will bring up their children to believe that they can be special, and that there is a whole massive world of untapped potential ahead of them, because for any child, that's true.

It's just that in recent years, it feels like they have been sheltered from reality.

My first child is going to be born any day now, and at this moment in time, she might be the first person to set foot on Mars, she might be the Prime minister, the next Beyonce, Stephen Hawking, or the FA Cup final winning goal scorer. She might be mid-level accountant living in a 2 bed semi with an average looking husband with bad dress sense and terrible sense of humour (as long as she's happy I don't particularly care).

But if she grows up without any useful feedback about where her true skills lie, then she could spend a lifetime of frustration chasing an unachievable goal. I'm a strong believer in positive reinforcement, but I'm convinced that the best lessons in life are learnt through failure.

I don't have first hand experience of what millennials went through at school, but I've read a lot of articles and my other half used to be a secondary school teacher. They do seem to be sheltered from their own failings. I think this is the worst form of short-termism. Yes, it keeps the kid happy for a while, but it ruins their ability to function once the training wheels are removed.

We should be teaching kids how to deal with failure, or better yet, embracing it, examining it and coming back from it a stronger person.

I don't think that he was implying that every single person born after 1984 is permanently glued to their smartphone and is incapable of forming deep relationships - just that these are the emerging trends, and the current generation will exhibit some of these characteristics to some extent. He suggested some strategies for coping with the current problems, and hopefully the next generation of teachers will get it right for the millennials' kids.
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 11:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think it is even an emerging trend.
Unless someone has lived a perfect life, they will have dealt with failure. I fail
to see how it is possible for parents to shelter one generation more than the next.
This bozo is just rehashing old as dirt observations about kids and using it to justify his pointless job.
 (I helped save b3ta! maninahat Too many cocks spoil the brothel., Mon 16 Jan 2017, 0:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's possible to shelter them by telling them that they haven't failed.
You could say - "hey if you want to win the egg and spoon race next year, you're going have to put the hours in at the track and cut down on your Sunny D intake to keep those shakes under control. There are kids out there with more speed and better stamina. You can beat them, but only if you put the work in now."

But they seem to be saying "Well done! you did a race! have a medal you little go-getter"

That's how you shelter kids from failure.

And the other point about the instant gratification has long been observed and studied. That is something that is genuinely unique to millennials - they just aren't used to waiting for things. Just look at the number of angry posts and websites that spring up when new game releases are delayed - they all lose their shit like the world owes them their next gaming hit.
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Mon 16 Jan 2017, 12:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post Victorian engineers
More like; people willing to sit through boring meetings and show up at the times they're told to.
 (chompedhomas, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 4:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post That comment was about the way subjects are set out, and which ones are 'better' than others
e.g. Maths, Physics and Chemistry are still viewed as the 'hard', 'intelligent' subjects that the high achievers will do well in.

Which is fine if you're trying to produce the next Brunel or Faraday, but today's job market is a million miles away from that. I just don't think that the subjects we were all brought up with make that much sense any more.

It's drilled into us from birth that the standard GCSE subjects are the only sensible way to compartmentalise all of human knowledge for 16 year-olds. If you sit down and think about it, it's fairly arbitrary, and if you started with a completely clean sheet, most people these days would come up with a very different list.

For example - if you wanted to go into a career in marketing (god forbid), what subjects should you study? Also - ask your average school leaver what a mortgage is, or who is required to submit self-assessment tax returns - I doubt many would be able to give you very good answers.

The education system just isn't setup to produce young adults ready for the 21st century.
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 10:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nonsense m8, there's a huge demand for engineers.
Changing energy infrastructure for fracking/tidal/wind etc., transport network for electric/autonomous vehicles, and increased flooding & extreme weather mean that the demand won't be going down anytime soon.
I daresay that medical professionals and research scientists will still be needed too.
 (Roger McGough-Pipe, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 15:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not for a moment suggesting that those professions are no longer required
Just that the current education system is set _only_ to produce them and nothing else.
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 19:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post This country has a long and proud engineering heritage
and I wholeheartedly want it to continue, just not to the detriment of everyone else.
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Sun 15 Jan 2017, 19:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post You talk some shit m8

(immadme, Mon 16 Jan 2017, 12:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thank you for that insightful comment
I think we've all learnt something useful from that.
 (I helped save b3ta! HoratioFellatio Taking the the out of psychotherapist, Mon 16 Jan 2017, 14:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post If people are coming to /links to learn, they're as fucking stupid as you.

(immadme, Mon 16 Jan 2017, 17:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post Im with you
I too lived that.
 (I helped save b3ta! jakedamusss I understand, and dont care., Sun 15 Jan 2017, 4:40, , Reply)